i own a 2000 sir and want to stroke it to a 1.8 i was wondering if i could do this by replacing parts from a type r (the pistons crank and rods) n e one have info???
thank u alex

 

Buy a B18C block. As soon as you start replacing internals you're talking serious $$$$$.

If you open the block you might as well knife edge the crank, then you'll have to get it balanced, then you might as well bore it and get oversized pistons, then maybe while you're already boring you might as well get it resleeved to take LARGE pistons, then you might find problems with your used Type R crank and have to find another, then maybe your rods will be screwed, then maybe your new used Type R crank will have scores, and you can't find another crank so you order one from the dealer who rapes you. Meanwhile you find a hook up that'll give you one for only $300, so you try and cancel your order, but the dealer already got it in so you have to pay the 15% restocking charge. Then you'll figure out the bearing size and order them from Honda and they'll be out of stock, so you'll have to wait 6 weeks for them to be sent from Japan. On top of all this you'll have to pay someone to put it all together. Total time invested: 8 weeks, total cost: 3k+++.

This is not to far removed from what a friend of mine and I went through with our build ups. We had a lot of lucky breaks along the way though. Buy yourself a brand new Type R block and be done with it.


[Modified by B18C5, 12:02 PM 10/28/2001]

 

I'm not asking for price I just want to know if it will fit??? I work for honda I get all my parts at cost....All my internals cost a grand total of 800$ I will do all the work myself...and I'm not interested in reboring to put over sized pistons i just want a little more torque and some more power for my 1.6 soon 2 b 1.8....Will this work?? Is it possible, can somebody inform me???
Thank you
Alex

 

I am sellin a Type R crankshaft that has been knife edged and balanced by Endyn, and I am also sellin some Eagle rods from a B18C if your interested.

later
scott

 

If you put B18 rods crank and pistons into a B16, won't the stroke be to long for the block??? - I'm basing this on the B18 block being 10mm taller than a B16.

Sam

 

I'm goin out on a limb here but I am pretty sure the B16A and B18C are pretty much the same block just with a different stroke.

seeya
scott

 

Using a b18 crank will mean you will have to use even shorter rods.

Say bye bye nice R/S ratio. :waves:

 

so what crank should u use then?

 

well from past experiences with people on the hybrid board..

You don't wanna stroke a B16 to 1.8L with a GSR or ITR crank- aint a good idea.

First off,

Do you know anything about rod ratio? cuz, you toss an almost perfect rod ratio (B16) right out the window when you do this - not only that, but secondly, like Dippy (brian) said, the B16 block has a shorter deckheight which is partly why the rod ratio gets crappy once you go 1.8L in a b16 block. If you did somehow manage to make a GSR or ITR crank fit into a B16 block you'd definitely need to get some custom rods since B18C rods are too long - because of the shorter deck height on the B16. A shitty rod ratio will wear out cylinder walls, and in this case you'll wear your B16 cyl.walls into an oval shape over a period of time.


They way to 'stroke' a B16 is to go over-oversized piston(s).
Don't do **** to the crank - unless you wanna knife edge it, but that's a waste of money if you just daily drive your car. you'll get the almost the same benefits if you just use a lightened flywheel. Again, slap a wider piston in that B16 beeyitch.
You'll have to hone the block of course to get wider pistons up in there... You can get real close to 1.8L with an over-oversized piston btw...or just get a complete B18C block.

Another option you have is to go 1.7L (B17A). Get a hold of a B17A crank & rods (good luck findin that!) & B16A pistons - all that will fit into a B16A block since the B16A and B17A blocks are identical.

so there...




[Modified by Katman, 10:45 PM 10/29/2001]


[Modified by Katman, 10:46 PM 10/29/2001]