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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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whats up guys i have a h22 swap in my 90 accord ran good and strong when i installed it, now its very hard to start i have tried everything i have put a new distributor, all relays up under the hood and the dashboard, fuel pump, fuel filter, dsm fuel injectors, spark plugs, emmision control box, and fuel injector resistor does anybody have any kind of answer.for sale: 4 19x8 axis speed six wheels and tires needs one tire other tires are 75% wear $800.


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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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CELs???
battery??
starter??
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 03:30 AM
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im kinda of new whats a cel?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jamey220 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im kinda of new whats a cel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

check engine light
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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well first off what are you controlling theose dsm injectors with ...cause if you just stuck them in there i can tell you right now it wouldnt start well at all
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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and why did you have to install a resistor box..your car should have already had one
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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no, i tried my brothers resistor box and it still wouldnt start, but the car will start it just takes too long to start it takes about 30 min before it even catches and when it does it slowly picks up, and before it was hard to start it was skipping like the plugs were dead but they are new plugs, it just does that when im sitting still but my car runs fine down the road it barks in first second and third.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jamey220 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, i tried my brothers resistor box and it still wouldnt start, but the car will start it just takes too long to start it takes about 30 min before it even catches and when it does it slowly picks up, and before it was hard to start it was skipping like the plugs were dead but they are new plugs, it just does that when im sitting still but my car runs fine down the road it barks in first second and third. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it barks 1st 2nd and 3rd gear? what you got a dog under the hood? how do you bark 1st anyway? you got gear 0
you check your fuel filter and fuel pump?....seems like you did everything with the ignition....so i would assume there is spark....you checked the injectors so i assume they work....did you try pulling one out and seeing if it sprays any fuel?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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flooded....get either smaller injectors for a fuel controller.....if you can borrow an a/f gauge off someone to check would help a ton....
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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you really need a way to controll those injectors or your gonna end up with some big problems down the road
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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**** i just noticed they were dsm injectors....theyre 440ccs....stock B-series are like 240....

vafc would solve your problem no doubt.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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i cant even get it started to check if it is firing from the plug wire and i have a brand new fuel pump and filter.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jamey220 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant even get it started to check if it is firing from the plug wire and i have a brand new fuel pump and filter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

pull one of the plug wires off the spark plug and stick a screwdriver in it and hold it close to metal and have someone turn the car over and see if it sparks...or you can hold the screwdriver...LOL....if you jump then spark good lol
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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lol ok ill try that tomorrow if i can't get anything then its off to the shop it goes because im tired of messing with it.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 07:33 AM
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im tying to help you here ....its barely gonna run with theose injectors in it ....

stock h22 has 340cc in it

say at idle the injector is being told to run 1%dudty cycle...then the 440 at 1%are gonna run way to much fule ..you need somtihgn to tell the dsm injectors to add less fuel so they idle properly .....

this is not complicaed...put the h22 injectors back in untill you have some way to control them ...

if you keep using the dsm injectors ,your gonna screw your motor up...all that fule is gonna be passing the rings and straight into the oil ....its gonna think it out and kiss your bottom end goodbye
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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ok i switched the injectors and i pulled the plug wires out to see if they are firing and every one of them are firing it turns over real strong but it wont catch unless i open the throttle and when i do that its like it wants to start but doesnt.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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its running lean....i said it

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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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how can i stop it from running lean and i cant get it started?
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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ok....lets start from the beginning....

H22 in a 90 accord...impressive set up...
but dsm injectors??? they run 440ccs!!!

you NEED to tune that.....
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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i took the injectors out and i still couldnt get it to start.
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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maybe the starters facked up....does it run ok when it runs??
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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no its not the starter i know what the problem is now, i took my fuel rail off and set it on top of my motor turned my switch and no gas sprayed, then i put the test light on the first injector as i was holding it i told my brother to turn the switch and when he did the injector sprayed same for the rest of them, so what can cause my injectors not to spray i changed the resistor and the main fuel relay and my wiring harness, when i striped a wire on the injector the wire looked kinda green like so it might be my harness.
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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hmmmm......
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