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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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is this fixable?I both this engine(jdm B18c)four-five months ago and when i went change timing belt i found this ,
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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I dunno if thats fixable but ouch doesnt look good...Maybe some jb weld??
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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I must be having a slow mental day here... that is the primary engine mount on the driver's side correct?
do the bolt holes look stripped to anyone but me?

that crack is not good but it's fixable. I'd have it welded personally.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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all are stripped+that crack
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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two paths to repair.

weld up the crack, then carefully tap the holes to a slightly larger bolt and install.

weld up the crack, weld/fill the holes as well. Redrill and retap holes.

the second is the best idea but far from easy.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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do i have to strip internals before i send it to weld it
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">two paths to repair.

weld up the crack, then carefully tap the holes to a slightly larger bolt and install.

weld up the crack, weld/fill the holes as well. Redrill and retap holes.

the second is the best idea but far from easy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree with number 2. also id say no, on the internals. Ive never seen something like that before, Id make sure the crack didn't go spread. I use to have a 02' gixxer 750 with a broken off engine mount. welded it up, ground it down to look somewhat like it use to be (it was shiny) drilled & taped it. It was good as new. never had any problems again. you should be fine
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 01:24 AM
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thx guys
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Old Aug 24, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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I would say get just the crack welded up and then helicoil the stripped holes.

Much easier on the welder, do you have any idea how hard it is to tig weld inside a hole?

good luck with it
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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bring it to a machine shop
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Fixable? (DA6mike)

u can weld that but is going to be weak and it might end up cracking again, that happened to my friends gsr and it was welded by a pro but it cracked again...if it was me i would get another block and save myself a headache..sorry
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">two paths to repair.

weld up the crack, then carefully tap the holes to a slightly larger bolt and install.

weld up the crack, weld/fill the holes as well. Redrill and retap holes.

the second is the best idea but far from easy.</TD></TR></TABLE>


#2 is the best also.

#1 you will need to get a carbide bit and drill out a larger diameter on the mount as it's pressed forged steel and impossible to drill with any standard regular bit.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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JB weld the crank then JB weld the bolt, it will hold just fine.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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first ask your self is the block worth it but yes its fixable at a cost
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by street dreams &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first ask your self is the block worth it </TD></TR></TABLE>

What are you smoking? It's not even a big deal. Have a welder fill in the crack for $50, then drill/tap the holes one step larger.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spicyEM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JB weld the crank then JB weld the bolt, it will hold just fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

shut up
JB weld will NOT hold that from cracking again due to the vibrations the engine endures
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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+1 on the heli coil idea..........if there good enough for edelbrock there good enough for that
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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is funny how people waste their time talking ****, the block is not solid metal and the weld will be weak, like i stated before it happened to my boy and he weld the damn thing and it cracked again...
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HNP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is funny how people waste their time talking ****, the block is not solid metal and the weld will be weak, like i stated before it happened to my boy and he weld the damn thing and it cracked again... </TD></TR></TABLE>


Considering that the motor/trans is held in with 5 mounts, and the mounts themselves dampen most of the vibration, recommending that he have it welded is not unreasonable advice.

He has a crack in 1 of about 15 bolt locations. Not exactly the crisis situation that would warrant spending hundreds of dollars to rip down the block and spend a week transfering everything over to a new block. He'd need a fresh hone, new rings, new bearings... what a nightmare. Just weld the ******* thing and be done.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Fixable? (Enzo Speed)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Enzo Speed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering that the motor/trans is held in with 5 mounts, and the mounts themselves dampen most of the vibration, recommending that he have it welded is not unreasonable advice.

He has a crack in 1 of about 15 bolt locations. Not exactly the crisis situation that would warrant spending hundreds of dollars to rip down the block and spend a week transfering everything over to a new block. He'd need a fresh hone, new rings, new bearings... what a nightmare. Just weld the ******* thing and be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Enzo Speed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Considering that the motor/trans is held in with 5 mounts, and the mounts themselves dampen most of the vibration, recommending that he have it welded is not unreasonable advice.

He has a crack in 1 of about 15 bolt locations. Not exactly the crisis situation that would warrant spending hundreds of dollars to rip down the block and spend a week transfering everything over to a new block. He'd need a fresh hone, new rings, new bearings... what a nightmare. Just weld the ******* thing and be done.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hks85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> + </TD></TR></TABLE>
+ x2

edit: don't forget to helicoil that biznach. Ask any seasoned domestic guy, they will take a helicoiled hole over aluminum anyday. Good luck with it.
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