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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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Default Code 23 on LSVTEC?

I'm throwing code 23 (knock sensor) on my LS/VTEC motor. I'm running OBD0 with PW0 ecu.

From my understanding, LS blocks do not have a knock senor. What can cause this and how can I fix it?
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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You can add a knock sensor to the motor. That`s what I would recommend.

http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...c.php
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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Motor is already in the car. I wouldn't want to go through all that trouble to add a knock sensor.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Zdyne can get rid of it as well I believe.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (CHRIS 1.8)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CHRIS 1.8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm throwing code 23 (knock sensor) on my LS/VTEC motor. I'm running OBD0 with PW0 ecu.

From my understanding, LS blocks do not have a knock senor. What can cause this and how can I fix it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you can trade your PW0 ecu for a PR3 ecu, I can reprogram a PR3 to have a disabled KS amongst other sensors...
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (Katman)

I will see if I can find someone that will actually trade a PW0 for a PR3 first. I plan on converting over to OBDI anyways so that would be kind of a waste of money.

Do you recommend staying OBD0 or converting to OBDI? I don't really get whats the advantages of them.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (CHRIS 1.8)

if u are palnning on converting then get a chipped p28..and your code should go away..they dont read knock.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CHRIS 1.8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will see if I can find someone that will actually trade a PW0 for a PR3 first. I plan on converting over to OBDI anyways so that would be kind of a waste of money.

Do you recommend staying OBD0 or converting to OBDI? I don't really get whats the advantages of them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

OBD1 is just plain better electronics, mainly distributor & ecu.
A good comparo-example would be how OBD0 ignitor/coils go bad frequently vs. OBD1 ignitor/coils which almost rarely-ever go bad.
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (Katman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Katman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
A good comparo-example would be how OBD0 ignitor/coils go bad frequently vs. OBD1 ignitor/coils which almost rarely-ever go bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

OBD1 ignitor/coils is just as crappy as OBD0. If that's the only advantage, MSD will be a lot cheaper and better.

Jay Kim
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (Katman)

Maybe I will just stay OBD0 and get a PR3 ECU. It will probably cost over $400 to convert to OBDI.
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (Dentilicious)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dentilicious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OBD1 ignitor/coils is just as crappy as OBD0.

Jay Kim</TD></TR></TABLE>


eh, that's debateable.
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Katman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">debateable</TD></TR></TABLE>

The word debateable is hardly worth all the trouble and the cost of converting to OBD1. With that money you could easily get Hondata + MSD ignition. I would choose the latter anytime, anyday.

Jay Kim
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (Dentilicious)

True, I will just stick with OBD0 and just get a PR3 ecu. Cheaper.

Thanks for all the suggestions Katman and Jay.

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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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another option is to find a suitable location on the engine that has a hole with threads.And find an appropiately sized bolt that will screw into it. Then have a 12x1.25 nut welded to itthen simply bolt it to the engine then screw in the knock sensor add the wire to the ecu and KS and presto. The best place for it would be under the intake manifold or somewhere in the back af the motor for a clean look.

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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (Dentilicious)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dentilicious &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The word debateable is hardly worth all the trouble and the cost of converting to OBD1. With that money you could easily get Hondata + MSD ignition. I would choose the latter anytime, anyday.

Jay Kim</TD></TR></TABLE>

im not quite sure but isn't hondata only work really well w/ obd1?
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Code 23 on LSVTEC? (bruceleeroy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bruceleeroy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u are palnning on converting then get a chipped p28..and your code should go away..they dont read knock. </TD></TR></TABLE>


go with the p28, i have a ls/vtec and chipped p28 and dont have a knock sensor...dont have any codes either
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