clutch doesnt engage..help
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I just swapped in my b20. I did a hydro to cable to hydro conversion. When i try to start the car, the clutch will not engage. I have already bled the clutch. Its still nto working. When im in the car i can shift, just the clutch doesnt engage. any suggestions? HELP
your post is a little confusing because a clutch is, by design, always engaged until the throw-out bearing pushes in on the pressure plate fingers. when you push in the clutch pedal, you are pushing the throw-out bearing into pressure plate thus releasing the pressure that pushes the clutch disk against the flywheel thus disengaging the clutch.
give us a little more info...
you push the clutch pedal to the floor and try to start the car. i assume that when you say 'try', you imply that your car didn't start? did you hear the starter motor click and try to start the engine or did nothing happen?
if the starter motor clicked and tried to start the engine but nothing happened, then your clutch IS engaged and by pushing in on the clutch pedal nothing actually happened down at your clutch and you need to look at your hydro-cable-hydro conversion because your slave cylinder isn't doing anything.
if your clutch is truly NOT engaging then your problem lies also probably in your hydro-cable-hydro conversion and is because your slave cylinder is applying constant pressure to the throw-out bearing, thus disengaging your clutch even when you aren't pushing in on the clutch pedal.
if you tried to start your engine and absolutely nothing happened. check to see if the clutch switch is hooked up behind the pedal. the ecu won't even try to start your engine unless it knows you pushed the clutch in.
edit:
do u mind me asking why you chose to convert from hydraulic to cable and then back to hydraulic?
give us a little more info...
you push the clutch pedal to the floor and try to start the car. i assume that when you say 'try', you imply that your car didn't start? did you hear the starter motor click and try to start the engine or did nothing happen?
if the starter motor clicked and tried to start the engine but nothing happened, then your clutch IS engaged and by pushing in on the clutch pedal nothing actually happened down at your clutch and you need to look at your hydro-cable-hydro conversion because your slave cylinder isn't doing anything.
if your clutch is truly NOT engaging then your problem lies also probably in your hydro-cable-hydro conversion and is because your slave cylinder is applying constant pressure to the throw-out bearing, thus disengaging your clutch even when you aren't pushing in on the clutch pedal.
if you tried to start your engine and absolutely nothing happened. check to see if the clutch switch is hooked up behind the pedal. the ecu won't even try to start your engine unless it knows you pushed the clutch in.
edit:
do u mind me asking why you chose to convert from hydraulic to cable and then back to hydraulic?
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thanks for the response.
The car does start when i push the clutch in and when i dont push the clutch in it will not start. So thats normal.
Im going to look at my conversion again. Is there any pictures of the cylinder applying pressure to the throwout bearing? It should be all the way down correct?
I only went with a cable tranny, because i already had it.
The car does start when i push the clutch in and when i dont push the clutch in it will not start. So thats normal.
Im going to look at my conversion again. Is there any pictures of the cylinder applying pressure to the throwout bearing? It should be all the way down correct?
I only went with a cable tranny, because i already had it.
Here's what I'd do, moving down the list if needed (coming from personal experience)
- Check fluid
- Have someone repeatedly push the clutch pedal while you inspect the moving parts
- Check all transmission-to-engine block bolts (yes, it's happened to me and car will start but will not move)
- Check axle placement within seal
If it comes to it, then adjust clutch engagement at clutch pedal. If it engages oddly, then that transmission must come off.
- Check fluid
- Have someone repeatedly push the clutch pedal while you inspect the moving parts
- Check all transmission-to-engine block bolts (yes, it's happened to me and car will start but will not move)
- Check axle placement within seal
If it comes to it, then adjust clutch engagement at clutch pedal. If it engages oddly, then that transmission must come off.
This is obviously not a honda bell housing but they are all basically the same. The arm in red is the throw-out bearing lever. when it's pushed back, the throw-out bearing is thrust forward and disengages the clutch. I've never messed with a cable tranny but i would assume that the throw-out bearing lever would be pulled back by the cable instead of being pushed back by the slave cylinder? either way, the resulting movement should be the same.
do what the other guy suggested and get someone to push the pedal in and out while your under the car checking to make sure everything is moving the way it should.
hope you get it straightened out.
Modified by crick at 10:58 PM 4/15/2007
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