wanted to kno if anyone knows of a good performance header to put on an h23 motor.Also which is better?Ceramic or polished steel? what are the average hp gains and whats the end result in sound difference.

appreciate it>thnks

 

get the stainless. the ceramics are known to rust n crack

 

i heared that the polishes stainless steel holds on to alot of the heat?? Anyone else ????

 

That's what you want. Heat that leaches out of the header is a bad thing. BTW, you can also ceramic coating for stainless steel. Best bet is to wrap your header with header wrap and stainless steel clamps. Beware though, if you do not have a true stainless steel header, condensation may form in the header when it cools and create rust which would ultimately eat through your header.

 

ok thanks. ive chosen to go with DC headers. there ceramic headers are part steel and coated in ceramic.??or should i jus get stainless steel. and maybe thermal wrap them

 

imo, dont go dc...i have there 4-1 ceramic... the ceramic is basically gone on the collector after a year and ground clearance is real bad

 

DC Sports website even states that the ceramic headers are made with a milder grade steel. The stainless headers are made of higher quality stainless steel, and if you don't like the polished bling bling look, go for the brushed one.

 

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I'm not questioning their steel, my header isnt broken, and i've hit many things with it ... But the coating is going.

 

ok thanks. lol ive heared enough bad stuff about these ceramic headers. im jus gonna go with polished stainless steel. they sound alot more efficient and durable. plus my car isnt lowered so i should be ok with ground clearance. anyone know the AVerage hp gains?

 

my car isnt lowered and still wacked it a few times, roads suck here in ny.. dc claims 10-12

 

I have a new dc 4-1 ceramic header. I like the look and ground clearance isn't bad unless your car is slammed. It holds up good, but I have seen one that is a few years old and the ceramic coating looks nasty. Never seen em rust though. The thing holds in heat great. You can damn near touch it with the car at temp.

 

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I used this little temp gun reader at my friends shop and my header was about 100 degress colder then my cat... made me love the ceramic

 

is there any way to clean up the ceramic coated headers when it starts lookin bad?

 

whats the basic differences between polished ss and ceramic? only the temperature?but is polished ss really that bad with temperature

 

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Yes. There are a number of coating service companies like Swain Tech (sp?) who do ceramic coating as well as other types of coatings.

 

...or you can get a stainless steel header and wrap it

 

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more like 6-8 hp.