I'm planning on replacing the transmission in my cable-clutched '90 integra and I'm wondering do I need to buy a transmission with a cable clutch? Are B-series transmissions equipped with hydraulic clutches different than those with cable clutches? Can the lever that acts on the throw-out bearing from my cable system be substituted into a hydraulic system?

If both systems have the same housing than that would obviously make it easier to find a replacement. Thanks in advance.

 

hydro trannys are better than cable. you can use a hydro tranny on a cable car, all you need is the kit from hasport

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hydro trannys are better than cable. you can use a hydro tranny on a cable car, all you need is the kit from hasport</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont be so quick to say that

92-93 YS1 tranny is the ******* ****
hydro tranny in a cable casing with shorter gearing then all other trannies besides 98+ spec JDM ITR

best tranny untill the 98 spec+ itr trans came around

 

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dont be so quick to say that

92-93 YS1 tranny is the ******* ****
hydro tranny in a cable casing with shorter gearing then all other trannies besides 98+ spec JDM ITR

best tranny untill the 98 spec+ itr trans came around</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes your right, hydro internals in a cable casting....
but very hard to find...

 

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yes your right, hydro internals in a cable casting....
but very hard to find...</TD></TR></TABLE>

ohhh so true

hehe even harder to find is the YS1 w/ factory LSD

 

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Unless the hasport kit is less than, say, $30, I'd rather avoid going that route. Also, some honda transmissions might be a legal swap for me whereas an aftermarket kit might not be. I'd have to check.

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hydro tranny in a cable casing with shorter gearing then all other trannies besides 98+ spec JDM ITR</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is the difference between cable and hydro as far as internals and case go?

Thanks for the responses.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by irev210 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont be so quick to say that

92-93 YS1 tranny is the ******* ****
hydro tranny in a cable casing with shorter gearing then all other trannies besides 98+ spec JDM ITR

best tranny untill the 98 spec+ itr trans came around</TD></TR></TABLE>

Keep in mind, though, that Honda is bad about labeling their gearboxes. Most YS-1 units you find are going to contain LS gears. Thanks for the advice on the sensor, by the way...

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What is the difference between cable and hydro as far as internals and case go?
Thanks for the responses.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most cable transmissions are quite different from the newer hydro units. Different shift fork design, different case, different clutch actuation (obviously). Hydro units are generally accepted to be stronger.

The exception, as mentioned above, is the YS-1 found in 92-93 Integras. This uses the same internal design as the hydro units, but has a cable actuated clutch. Hydro internals (such as GSR/ITR gearsets and LSDs) can be swapped into these cases. The YS-1 came with both the LS gearing and the GSR gearing, and there is no marking on the outside to indicate which gearset it contains.

Any b-series transmission will bolt to any b-series engine; if I were you, though, I would stick to using a cable transmission. If you want flexibility, get the YS-1.

 

I thought 92-93 integras had hydro clutches. That's interesting... I'll definitely try to find a YS-1 tranny.

Thanks for the help everyone.

 

i like cable trannys, dont ask.

 

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ohhh so true

hehe even harder to find is the YS1 w/ factory LSD
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ohhhh hell yea, i know wut u mean i was tryin to look for one about 3 months ago.

 

I have a GSR YS1 in my Del Sol right now
i love it, wanna buy it
everything is for sale for the right price

not everything inside of the YS1 is interchangable, believe me. We installed ITR gears into ls YS1 last night and it was a Bish, trial and error is what it was, gear diameter syncro compatibility and gear selectors are hard to match up correctly

refer to this thread for the history of the car this tranny is going into
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=831164

 

You can easily put in a hydraulic transmission into a 1990-93 Integra. For the most part, the magic in the hydro system is in the pedal assembly. With some very minor drilling, the pedal assembly and master cylinder bolt up. Then all you have to do is mount the hardline, run it to the slave cylinder and your good to go.

The only special part you need is the Place Racing tranny mount ($157) and the DC2 pedal assembly, master/slave cylinders and line ($100-125). Costs less than the weird Hasport kit.

Zoomintegra over on G2IC pioneered this method. I can't wait to try it with a Y21 LSD tranny!

 

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not everything inside of the YS1 is interchangable, believe me. We installed ITR gears into ls YS1 last night and it was a Bish, trial and error is what it was, gear diameter syncro compatibility and gear selectors are hard to match up correctly</TD></TR></TABLE>

The easiest way to complete this type of swap is to use the complete shaft assemblies from the hydro gearbox, along with the shift forks and diff. All that is required is some slight case clearancing and diff/shaft shimming (assuming the other bearings etc. are in good shape).