i have an automatic integra and have been having problems with it. when it is in 4th gear at low speeds (btwn 40 and 20) and i press the gas to make it downshift to 3rd, it seems to slip and the rpms go up about 3k before the transmission goes to 3rd. it doesn't slip or do anything else wrong at any other speed or in any other gear. i've been told if i get a tranny flush it will only make it worse. some people have told me its the torque converter and others told me that its the clutch packs. can anybody point me in the right direction...

thanks.

 

nobody?

 

You could consider dropping in a 5-cog instead, LS trannys seem to be pretty cheap

 

this site is usless. there's way too many people on here to not know anything about an automatic transmission.

 

Well to tell you the truth, an automatic 4 speed is pretty much the least favourable transmission in a honda EVER, so not many people bother with them. It sounds like it "could" be the clutchpacks in the torque converter, how many kms on the tranny? Even then, why not invest in a 5 speed?

 

i cant drive a 5spd because i have no use of my legs. theres 123,xxx miles on the trans.

 

That probably is nearing end of your torque converters life. How much do torque converters run? I'd suggest trying a known good torque converter, but it's a big job if you don't have a garage, or if you're doing it yourself, etc. Have any transmission rebuilding places suggested anything?

 

To clarify, there are no "clutches" inside your torque converter. Once the trans is slipping the only remedy is to replace the worn unit. Look around for a reman from H&A in Cali or shop around for a used trans that has a good warranty. Those trannies arent too problematic, its either been abused by lack of maintenance or been ran hard. Good luck!

 

Here is what you need to do.

1) empty the fluid, see if anything comes out that would indicate extreme wear such as metal flakes or in extreme cases a check ball.

2)If no metal flakes or other objects come out then...
refill the tranny with fresh fluid, do not "flush" the tranny.

3) if the problem persists then the only thing you can do is either rebuild($$$$) or replace($$$).

An auto tranny works by hydraulic pressure and check ***** controlled by solenoids (a helms manual would help here) opening and closing to allow fluid to engage the clutches. The same way your foot does in a stick shift.

The tranny is also controlled by a separate module called the TCM, you could try replacing it with another one but they are expensive and probably not the problem.

The TCM uses load, RPM and speed data to determine what gear you should be in, then actuates the solenoid to engage that gear.

From what you describe there is a stuck check ball that is not opening and closing correctly allowing the revs to climb higher than normal. Either the check ball is stuck because the fluid is dirty and contaminated or because the solenoid is sticking.

Do not carry out any work on an auto tranny wihout a helms.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

Cory Man its not the torque converter, if it was this would be happening in every gear especially in 2nd since that is the high load gear, the one engaged in open loop when you floor it.

 

i'm going to change the fluid in a few days. i was going to use amsoil atf. i'm told amsoil is a detergent and cleans the internals. so i was going to try changing the flluid, running about 1k miles on it and then change it again.

i'm looking for an auto b16 trans locally because i've been told there not that expensive...

 

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Cory Man its not the torque converter, if it was this would be happening in every gear especially in 2nd since that is the high load gear, the one engaged in open loop when you floor it.
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MotorMouth, I never said it was the torque converter, I was correcting the previous post that stated the torque conv. has internal clutches. BTW, changing the fluid, TCM and stuck check ***** will not solve the problem.

DA6righthand, Changing the fluid will not fix your complaint. Once the trans is slipping the clutch material is already worn and no amount of fluid changes will replace it. You need a new/used trans.

 

i'm looking for an automatic b16 trans.... i read about automatic trannys on howstuffworks.com because i dont know much about 'em, and theres no way in hell i'll buy new clutch plates and try to replace 'em. automatic transmissions are WAY too complex for me to tear into...

coryman, i understand what motormouth is saying. if it was my torque converter, it'd be slipping in all gears. from what i read on howstuffworks, my guess would be the clutch plates...or what motormouth said...the pistons in the valvebody could be sticking...but theres too much to it and for now i'm just gonna keep looking for an automatic b16 trans.

thanks guys.

 

Good luck finding an auto b16 trans, like you said, it should be dirt cheap

 

buddy of mine that works at a shop in cincy said that they arent that hard to find. he said some of the swaps the get at the shop come as automatics and nobody wants 'em so they sell for dirt cheap.

 

I've got a b16 auto trans from an eg9 half cut with 90,000 kms, $175 + s&h. If you're interested or want to see pictures, pm me.

 

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dont post then.

and i would do a auto to man. swap.

you WILL like your car WAY more.

 

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dont post then.

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if you cant answer my question, dont post in my thread.

i like my car the way it is.

i CANNOT drive a manual. i'm paralyzed.