I wait in joyful hope for the day that people stop destroying cars and making the only mods wheels and suspension neither in the correct geometry. I think the same, where has the scene gone? People rather go for all show and no go now days. I'll stay hellasunk with my +40 offset wheels and a 23" fender arch height all around. People tell me all the time I should stance my car, how about no! Function > Form.

 

They're gonna have to pry my Integra out of my cold dead hands. It's a GREAT car. Fortunately my wife also understands this

 

LOL looks like we're on the same boat. My gf is also a supporter.

 

Nice. My wife just talked me into getting an all new suspension rather than just replacing one busted OE shock. I was like WTF - OK!

 

Or she's like mine, and understands that the husband keeping an old car means she gets a new one more often.

It's hard to make the argument "Do we really want 2 car payments?" when the "they don't make em like this any more"was paid off years ago...

2001 GSR owner. < 90k miles. Wasn't planning on even considering selling it anytime soon, except the FR-S sure sounds like it might actually be a contender.

 

LOL now that's just plain Awesome ahaha

 

Agreed. Think about how most of us feel about biters (if you have any). Would you really want all the cars to be nearly the same?
A lot of people left the Honda scene because they grew out of it. They get tired of the noobs. It's not just styles. Styles we don't like have been and will be around forever. Anyone who discontinues a hobby because they don't like how some other people play the game is a really puss.

I would venture to say perhaps people who do that aren't true enthusiasts. I really can't imagine no longer doing something you love because people you don't know thousands of miles away fit wheels on their car in a way that you don't like.

People who are into the scene as a means of attention or because it's just something to take up time or money or because they just want their car to be different for the sake of being differen, those people will leave the scene. There will always be more filing in right behind them though.

 

What fascinates me is we always seem to go in circles.. i feel like with hellaflush and the sticker bombing, the insane 65-75mm wing spans... j's racing or not.. still street cars.. we have gone back again to the early 90's.

With all that being said, the best part of this hobby never changes. It's core is just the love of the car, the fun of working on it. Great example of this is someone who buys say a 96-00 ek hatchback.

They start the build by replacing interior parts with new oem ones, new carpet, paints the interior, no a spec of grease, new wire lines, engine out over the weekends to clean a firewall..

these builds might dip a bit into hellaflush, or overly goofy racing wings but the core carries enough presence to stand the test of time. yes.. this is a great thing.

 

ug... and now i get my post deleted when i tell a kid who runs a tunner lugnut on a domestic lugseat is a dumbass... frustrating to see how dumb people act.

 

Hellflush, never even heard of it, seen a lot of it, IMHO it is butt ugly, but then again "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" I am pretty sure I can find more then a few people who think a stock Honda/Acura is ugly.

I have been around a long time and have seen, and been in, a lot of car "trends", there is always going to be people that will modify cars, what the mods are and how they look is always going to be a "trend", just like pretty much everything else.

I was in my teens when "muscle cars were "in" and the trend was big fat tires for the rear and small skinny one for the front and definatly a hood scoop, also thought that was ugly, and not at all practical, although rotating the tires was not an issue.

My particular tastes are as "clean" as possible, as stock as possible, anything that will increase performance, nothing that will not.

My favorite cars are my 94 Integra, [will keep it till I am dead, will go to my oldest son], am also on the lookout for a 1968 Chevelle Malibu 2 door hard top, would settle for a Chevelle Deluxe and pull the 6 banger and swap in a 350 or 400 small block with a Muncie 4 speed transmission.

Back to topic, I am saddened to hear that what someone else is doing to their car would put anyone off of enjoying their own cars, I mean who cares what other people do, it only matters what you do, you will not "hang" with people that do not share your interests, you will hang with the ones that do.

Lets keep in mind, "it's a free country" we are allowed to express ourselves as we see fit, just because you don't like it means diddlysquat, more then a few obviouasly do like the "Hellflush" trend or it would not be a trend. 94

 

hellaflush is just another fad, but we all know hellafast will never go out of style

 

^AGREED!

If you have left the honda/import scene because of a "trend", then you probably haven't been a part of the seen for very long...or possibly not a true enthusiast of the sport itself. The import scene alone has gone through so many stages, this isn't going to be the last. Also with all trends there are the few that can do it right(yes there is a right) and plenty that will do it very wrong.

To be honest i believe a lot of people left the honda community cause it was stagnate. there wasn't a whole lot of popularity in the scene years back. With the crack down on street racing as well as the abundance of "negative" news towards the import scene it was spiraling down really fast. On top of that the recession going on, can't make money if its not being spent.

People grew up, stopped racing and got out of the scene all together. The drag racing community starting falling flat, tracks we're closing due to lack of events, road racing was still not that popular and drifting started taking over the import scene.

From the beginning, now and the future people will continue to mod there cars in similar fashions as they do now...lowered and rims, wether it be 17/18's on your civic to flushed 15x9's. Along with rims the style of lowering has had different looks from the "flush" to "sunken ship aka slammed" to "hella flush". which are all the evolution of one another.

People need to get over themselves and do what they want already! I've been a fan of all the stages the scene has gone through....but the one scene i currently despise, while everyone is ranting over "hella flush"(which was a non honda thing originally which people forget). I DISLIKE THE SHAVED BAY RACE CAR LOOK! and RACE CAR LOOK all together

How is a fully caged car with a built motor and a SHAVED bay anymore functional? These "track themed" builds are really waste of a car...at least a flushed car gets driven, don't really see a lot of "track themed" builds actually hit the track

my 75c

 

my poor teg doesn't get any attention from the bandwagon fgts lulz

 

The original post looked like a haiku there for a second.

My thoughts were......if you're building your car to impress other guys in parking lot meets, its not much different from plucking your eyebrows, putting on your shortest shorts and going to the ManHole.

One guy puts on wider wheels to outdo the next guy.

One guy puts on shorter shorts to outdo the next guy.

Both in hopes of impressing other men.

http://youtu.be/GZxbNvgcNYM

^this is one of the biggest piece of **** cars i've ever seen. Seriously? Because its in the current trend everything else gets over looked?


These guys will look back a few years from now and say "OMG, What was i thinking!?" The same way people before them said the same thing about their altezza tails, projector headlamps and neon everythings. But that wont happen until the next big thing happens....the only shitty part is that we've been long overdue.

 

I have to agree with the shaved bay part. The thing I dislike even more though? Wire tucks.

Way to make your car more difficult to work on.

As far as cars not being driven, I think the story of the car might need to be better understood. Do I know people who own highly modified Hondas just to let them sit while they bus around in their girlfriend's car? Sure. But that's only one side of the story of undriven cars.

I have a car that I barely drive. I have shoveled far too much money into it. It's purely hobby to buy parts I want for it and install them. It gets an occasional drive. I put maybe 120 miles on it this summer.

Sounds like I'm just wasting money for no good reason, right? Wrong.

I would be crushed if anything bad happened to that car. It's not just another Civic and I could never replace it. My dad helped me get that car, my second car (to replace the identical, one year old Civic coupe I had before it), before he passed away. My dad was a car nut as well, though he'd been out of any sort of scene for years. My entire life I knew him as a diesel mechanic. I never even got to work on my car with my dad. He taught my sister brakes (she doesn't even currently own a car iirc). She probably needed the help more than I did though.

My build honestly was more about remembering my dad and dealing with his passing.

Basically what I'm saying here is that we're all going to see different aspects of the car modification scene that we don't like and we're all going to see types of modifications and different cars that we don't particularly like. I think a little more understanding is needed, or at the very least perhaps some people could learn to just not give a f*** what other people are doing with their cars. (Not toward you, 1320spTurtle. I know some people need to chill though.)

 

Enjoyed reading the opinions! I Live in Las Vegas, NV, the racing scene out here is pretty ridiculous! Most of the kids out here (and i do mean KIDS) are " Honda all day" and "my hondas faster than yours." Its no longer for the love of how a chemical meets air, electricity, and combustion to create an energy that is widely degraded! I love Honda, in fact i love cars in general, but the way honda is portrayed out here makes me SICK!!! I no longer go to the meets because there's always some BS, stupid kids thinking there cool or cops messing with us because of the stupid kids actions. I have left the honda scene and came back because i have realized that in life you dont do things to look good or to fit in, you do them because you want to, and it pleases you. Now on topic of the " Hella-flush " community. I personally dont like all the hype that this style has created. Its now a trend, there is no originality involved in this whatsoever. Im not bashing anyone that likes this style because i LOVE the look, like i said i just dont like the hype its created. My 20 year old four door civic is on deep dish diamond racing wheels 15X10 to be exact. The rear HAS to be cambered simply because the wheel width is 10in, so its not very " Even " with the fenders or " Flush " as they now say. Before it was " I wanna be 10 seconds " and all this BS, but when they say it takes way more than a wing, body kit, turbo, and nitrous to do it, many gave up. So instead of being fast like they wish, they decide to concentrate it on being this so called " Flush ". Like i said i live in LV which has climbed to the 3rd or 4th highest stolen car rate in the country, ALL of these kids are from the highly frowned upon honda community. Every time you get stopped they check every serial number and vin they can get there hands on, and thats just the half of it. ALL this coming from the stupid kids that NEED to be driven away from this love that we all have. In saying that, " Hella-Flush" / Honda scene in general= FAIL!!! I love my honda and will never leave its side, but im in it for myself and myself only. Keep the deep dish, camber, stretched tires, camber wear, and originality to myself, "Hella-Flush" can and should DIE...

 

^^^ And i know it sounds like i contradicted myself by saying that the hella flush thing should die after clearly stating i love the look... Although, i also stated i hate the hype it has created, as in the look to me is pretty sick, but the way people have blown it out of proportion and gave it a name kills it for me. In saying that i have had my rims and same style on my car since b4 i can think, and definitely before people out here have thought about doing it (at least before all of my friends and a lot of others). I will still ride this way for a while until i fully track my car and support the Drag scene instead of get tickets and support the " police scene."

 

Love it or hate it end of story.

 

Still looks stupid. What's your point?

 

really really good stuff, if anyone minds, i would like to expand my article, and include some comments that you guys have written, if anyone isn't cool with that being on apwhat.com, let me know.

the part that some people have brought up to me,
is that it's their car, they can do as they please..

however.. let's have the analogy of a hockey player.

from the time of age 6 to age 17 this young man has lived, breathed, and bleed for hockey. Broken bones, trophy's, everything.

It's the state finals game and jimmy the new guy to the team steps on the ice.

You, who loves this sport looks out as jimmy has ice skates with sparkling diamonds glued on, he's sporting a yellow coat with feathers.. magnificent fathers!!!

and his helmet is pink with a giant raccoon tail hanging off the back.


The other team is on the ice, laughing to the point they can't stand.


Is he out of line for calling jimmy a frigging idiot and that he should find a new hobby.... ?

 

No one is forcing you to hang out with the people who have cars modified in ways you don't like (if you were on a team with them, in order to be on the team you would have to have contact with said person).

And honestly if you have a guy on the ice with diamonds on his blades, yellow feathers on his coat and a raccoon tail hanging off the back of his pink helmet, your team is probably going to win since the competition is so busy laughing their asses off at Jimmy.

Calling Jimmy an idiot won't help anyone. Jimmy won't suddenly "see the light" because you say you think he looks like a moron. Telling him he should get a new hobby is rude and honestly he could just join a different team. Calling Jimmy an idiot and telling him to find a new hobby is likely to just make you look like a jerk.

 

i dont understand why people hate on other peoples car just because its not the same style as yours or because its not how u would of made the car, me personaly, i look at the effert that goes into the car and respect persons ideas and "trend" they want to be part of. im not trying to change the way you look at cars but just somthing to think of next time you see a car thats been modified a way you dont like, enstead of automaticly thinking it looks stupid

 

i think people need to have a little more pride and respect for any aspect of any sport they are apart of. Regardless of hellaflush, or the scca racer..

those people are apart of your hobby.

as well.. it's dangerous..

what happens when these kids attract the law, and legal bills..

they could be the final drop in the bucket that has law makers forcing us to install oem rims.

think about that?

safety comes before style.

 

You gotta think about other people when your an adult, not just how cool your nikes are, and how much camber you can have..

however, yes i agree hating and bitching is a bad approach.. but asking nicely that the kind young men with 2.5" of tire patch contacting the road next
to my minivan with 3 sleeping kids in the back not to drive next to me.. lol

shrug.. lets just hope this hellaflush dies really quickly.. i know I'm far from the only person that thinks its dangerously dumb.

 

Curious what laws they're breaking right now besides right height laws (which many of us here are already breaking those) and tire condition laws (again, being broken by many people already as well). Not that it makes it okay for anyone to have unsafe equipment on their car, but I'm saying this is probably a very very small fraction of the people out there who do crash due to similar reasons.

Let me know when we have an epidemic of innocent bystanders dying because of people with cambered out wheels. I haven't heard of a single crash even caused by it yet.
I try not to drive near other cars anyway. Too many people don't even check their blind spots, but also too many people sit in the blind spot of others.

You don't necessarily know if that stock Camry sitting next to you on your drive home from work one night is driving on cords or not even.