Rob.

Will this work ? I ask cuz I want the ef front shocks to have more travel. I already ordered them.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1497161

If not, can I use them on my H&R Ultra Low coilovers ?

They seem to work on TEIN SS.

MAV3RiCK478

i dont understand why you would need them on omnis since they are short stroke coilovers to begin with. weren't the GC top hats created because konis, tokicos and KYBs are all oem length shocks and struts, so using them with the GC would give back some of your suspension travel.

Rob.

the Ef's front coilovers were designed with too long of a shock body, which means the car doesnt lower hardly enough !
I had to lower the top perch (thus reducing shock travel) just to get a decent enough drop !!! I had a long discussion with Omni about this issue !
Now I wanna install the top hats, just so the shocks dont bottom out !
They've been ok for the passed 3 months.

Tyson

jsut because they are mounted on those teins, doesnt mean they "fit" and work properly.

Rob.

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Are you sure, cuz the guy who installed them on those teins, said they made a big difference.
i wanna try and find the thread on here.

MAV3RiCK478

i thought omni came out with a new shorter shock body for the DA/EF. you could probably exchange your old ones for the new ones.

well the omnis are 2.5" springs but i dont know what the shaft size is. but you'll end up just moving the hardware over to the GC tophats anyways.

tyson's right the omnis won't fit inside the tophat when they compress because they are fairly wide. so yes they would keep you from bottoming out internally but will not give you more travel because they might just stop when they reach the bottom of the tophat and cause more damage than good.

Rob.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MAV3RiCK478 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought omni came out with a new shorter shock body for the DA/EF. you could probably exchange your old ones for the new ones.

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The only problem is with the fronts...
I spoke with Bob at Omni..the only thing that is new is the beefier lower cups.
The shock body itself was never redesigned.

I had to lower the top perch on the fronts only, just to get it at a decent level..

mikeski38

if they will work or not depends on the diameter of the piston on omni. the biggest shaft GC can send you fits the koni's and thats it.

Rob.

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thats what I've been saying all along !

slammed_93_hatch

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thats what I've been saying all along ! </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok then figure out the size of the shaft, and if its bigger then a koni, then it wont work.

chrisw85

from what i understand, the original idea behind the creation of 'tophats,' either GC or welded stock ones, was to limit droop.

Rob.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisw85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i understand, the original idea behind the creation of 'tophats,' either GC or welded stock ones, was to limit droop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what ? how the heck would it limit drop ? It allows more shock travel, thus you
can lower your car more..

duh..

MAV3RiCK478

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikeski38 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if they will work or not depends on the diameter of the piston on omni. the biggest shaft GC can send you fits the koni's and thats it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what tyson and i are talking about is that we dont think the SHOCK BODY will fit inside the tophat and so the setup will not work properly. the shaft wouldnt matter because you would take the sleeve from the omni tophat and use it instead of the one GC provided. just like when i installed my GC tophats i had to take my koni sleeve from my oem tophat and put them in the GC tophat.

here is a pic tyson posted in the other thread of a tokico's shock body fitting in the GC tophat when fully compressed.

Rob.

I undertand what you are saying, but before the omni shock body meets the GC Top mounts, the UCA will hit the fenders !!!

My car wont be low enough for that to happen , but I will still be getting more shock travel , since the piston sits higher up.

it all depends how much you lower the car.
i cant really lower the car anymore, just maybe 3/4 on an inch, so the UCA wont hit the fender, which in turn means that the shcok body wont come in contact with the GC upper mounts !

chrisw85

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what ? how the heck would it limit drop ? It allows more shock travel, thus you
can lower your car more..

duh.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you dont understand what droop is, with two O's. d-r-o-o-p.

droop [travel] is how much te suspension extends when it is unloaded; for example, when the car is on jackstands or when you are coming out of a corner the wheel with the least load will have the most droop. When the droop travel is great, the springs can 'pop out' of the seats this is espescially common on coilover setups where the springs are significantly shorter than stock springs.

MAV3RiCK478

yea, the DA & EF owners got screwed for UCA travel. i have a dent on each tower