You guys have any creative ideas? I don't have a rollbar in yet, but I'd like to have a harness to supplement my Sparco.

 

I'd like to have super model Heidi Klum to complement my Sparco

certainly more useful in a car that harnesses with no roll bar (non y type anyway)

 

Damn you *****. There's plenty of autocrossers who use harnesses w/o a rollbar... Anyone else want to be more mature?

 

That's because they hopefully bought this kind which was designed soley for that purpose

 

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I don't see how a set of wrap-around shoulder straps is going to be long enough to mount anywhere safe other than a horizontal bar behind the seat. They're just too short to reach anything else unless you're in a del sol or mr2 or something like that.

BTW, there's nothing "immature" about someone looking out for your safety.

 

I was able to use my G-force harness with a C-pillar bar that I got from stable energies. However, before I got the C-pillar bar, I ran the following setup:

I bought two of these:

I ran the harness straps into them.

Then I mounted an eye bolt into the rear upper seat bolt attachment point.

I attached both harnesses to this eye bolt.

This allowed me to use the rear seat belts when necessary and the harness during autox's.

Disclaimer: remember, the purpose of this setup is mainly to hold me in the seat tight during autox. I do not recommend this setup for track events. Even for autox it can be deemed "dangerous" w/o a roll bar.

 

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A C-pillar bars strong enough for this?

 

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The C-pillar bar or single eyebolt setups aren't for safety at all. They're just to hold you in the seat better during autox. I had a similar setup in my Si when I was autoxing, with eyebolts and snap-on connectors for both seat and shoulder harness. Only hooked them up at events, and used the stock belts otherwise.

 

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I don't recommend any type of harness without a roll bar. Been discuss heavily in this forum... but anyway. The C-Pillar bar is strong enough for me to create the needed tension in the belts to hold me tight, but it is not in any way roll over protection.

 

I dont see a problem for autocross.

 

Thanks David. The wraparound straps were long enough to reach? I guess it was an Integra, so it shouldn't have been too far anyways.

 

Yes, they were long enough. But, I am not sure all harnesses are made the same length. If you already have a harness, just do a test fit or if you are purchasing new ones, the G-force 5-point worked well for me.

 

Although it depends on course design, I have seen pictures of people that rolled during an autoX event. It was probably more due to the course design , but still there is that chance.

A roll bar is only 350 new from autopower and can be installed in about three hours or so.

I don't see why anybody would be willing to risk their life for 350 dollars. Doesn't really make all that much sense. You probably paid more than 350 for your strut bars.

 

A rollbar is alot of dead weight in an autox car.

 

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But speeds are usually less than 60 mph... for which the car was originally designed to handle. The problem with rollover REALLY starts to play a role when you upping the speed to well beyond highway speeds, something the original designers of the chassis never intended.

Not saying that the car (and/or your head) will always survive a 60 mph rollover but the car, at least, affords a reasonable factor of safety.

Andy - who has a rollbar and a harness in his autox car.