When do you need to sleeve the block?
Alright, i'm going to be putting a turbo on my B18c1 block. I was just wondering at what PSI is sleeving required. It is going to be run off a Zdyne for management if that makes any significant differences.
I don't think you will find a real answer. I know some people that have boosted at 6 psi and blew a block. I know other people that boost over 20 psi on stock sleeves and don't have any issues. From what I have seen here on h-t it really depends on your tune. If you have a really good tune you can boost a lot more.
After cracking my sleeves on my first block at 14 psi with a block guard I will not boost over 10 psi. Everyone tells me to turn up the boost but I would rather have my motor last instead of cracking another sleeve.
I guess it depends how lucky and how big of ***** you have. You may be able to run 20+ and never have a problem or may blow it up with just a few psi.
Hope that helps.
After cracking my sleeves on my first block at 14 psi with a block guard I will not boost over 10 psi. Everyone tells me to turn up the boost but I would rather have my motor last instead of cracking another sleeve.
I guess it depends how lucky and how big of ***** you have. You may be able to run 20+ and never have a problem or may blow it up with just a few psi.
Hope that helps.
You will never find a definate answer in PSI. PSI is not an accurate way of determining how much a part or engine will hold. 12psi on a T25 is absolutely nothing like 12 psi on an SC61. You will find a more accurate answer in horsepower, but even then tuning plays the key role.
It is VERY dependent on the setup, tuning, and motor condition. If it is a fresh motor, tuned well on a streetable setup, adding let's say 100-150 hp shouldn't be an issue on stock sleeves with a stock bore. If you are not tuned worth a ****, you can blow it on very low boost. Case and Point: Brandon Gray (not sure about his name on here) cracked the #3 cylinder on 5 psi on a mid-mileage GSR. It blew on the dyno at 213 hp. I have always thought of sleeving as a way to run high boost on big-bore motors. If you are just wanting low to mid boost (5-10 psi) on a stock bore, you should be fine with a good tune. Did I forget anything? Feel free to add on guys!
Ok i guess i left out quite a few details. The engine is currently out of the car in pieces. I'm going to be droping the compression a little bit (guessing about 9.5:1 or so) and a complete rebuild from oil pan to valve cover. This is still going to be a DAILY DRIVER!! No bandaids for tuning at all. I'm not a crazy driver that takes it up to red everytime i drive so i'm sure that also factors in as well.
So with this set up the big question is do i need to drop a $1000 on sleeving to run reliably?
So with this set up the big question is do i need to drop a $1000 on sleeving to run reliably?
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I have BI8C, 10 psi daily, I make 281 to the wheels, stock sleeves for over 8 months now no problems.
Unless your going to run major psi of boost, don't sleeve. Just make sure your tune is good, you have good engine management (Like HONDATA like I have).
I too am concerned about lonevity of the motor so I won't raise the boost anymore. 300 HP on stock Pistons/Rods in a B18C is about as far as you want to go.
You'll be fine.
Unless your going to run major psi of boost, don't sleeve. Just make sure your tune is good, you have good engine management (Like HONDATA like I have).
I too am concerned about lonevity of the motor so I won't raise the boost anymore. 300 HP on stock Pistons/Rods in a B18C is about as far as you want to go.
You'll be fine.
So with this set up the big question is do i need to drop a $1000 on sleeving to run reliably?[/QUOTE]
You dont have to spend $1000.00 to sleeve a mild built block. You can use our standard flanged sleeves that are about $635.00 installed. Its sometimes better to build the block up right the first time than to have a problem that could have been fixed ahead of time.
The amount of boost a Honda block will very like everyone else said above. Honda casting a very inconsistant, thats why you see some handle a lot of boost and some dont. Also how many miles the block has makes a difference. Even if you run low boost, over time the block will get weaker and if you decide to boost a little higher you may have problems. Honda blocks were not designed to be a turbo block.
You dont have to spend $1000.00 to sleeve a mild built block. You can use our standard flanged sleeves that are about $635.00 installed. Its sometimes better to build the block up right the first time than to have a problem that could have been fixed ahead of time.
The amount of boost a Honda block will very like everyone else said above. Honda casting a very inconsistant, thats why you see some handle a lot of boost and some dont. Also how many miles the block has makes a difference. Even if you run low boost, over time the block will get weaker and if you decide to boost a little higher you may have problems. Honda blocks were not designed to be a turbo block.
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