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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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I dont know how many people know about HID stuff, but i was wondering how the whole "K" system with HID's work. Does 10,000k put out more light than the 6000k? I know the lower the number the whiter it is and the higher the number the more purple or blue it gets. Or maybe i have it backwards. Anyway, any information would be helpful. Lookin to get some HID's for a set of JDM headlights i am looking to get. Thanks to all in advance.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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Kelvin is a temperature rating for light...at least that is my understanding on it.

As far as headlights and what Kelvin you can see/see the best with is around 4800-6000 kelvin.



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by intraweb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Kelvin temperature is a numerical measurement that describes the color appearance of the light produced by the lamp and the color appearance of the lamp itself, expressed on the Kelvin (K) scale.

In application, the Kelvin temperature of lamps is used to categorize them as warm, neutral or cool sources. The terms are not directly related to temperature; instead, they describe how the light source appears visually. Warm sources actually have a lower color temperature (3500K or less), producing a red-yellow appearance. Neutral sources (between 3500K and 4100K) tend to have a yellow appearance. A lamp with a color temperature of 5000K is considered pure white light (Full Spectrum) with the lamp becoming more blue in color as the color temperature is increased.</TD></TR></TABLE>

for more information search google for kelvin scale or kelvin temperature


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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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thanks for the awesome and VERY helpful imformation man, i believe i will be purchasing some 6000k HID's soon. Thanks again.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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http://www.misterjung.com

this guy sells some good *** HID kits, and, ive owned a few myself that ive installed into a few of the cars ive owned, and this was even before the plug and play installation they have now, so if you need any feedback or help with the install or whatever, feel free to PM me!
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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If you want the highest light output, go with something in the 4300K range. That's what most luxury cars use in their OEM HIDs. I have JDM black housing headlights on my Accord with 4300K Philips HIDs.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhAtBoY Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want the highest light output, go with something in the 4300K range. That's what most luxury cars use in their OEM HIDs. I have JDM black housing headlights on my Accord with 4300K Philips HIDs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont disagree with you one bit but i found a really good deal on a kit made by McCulloch that is 6000k. I want a lil bit of blue tint and really bright, and i think 6000k is just perfect, probably the lowest i go if i do is probably 5000k or so. thanks alot for your input.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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stay away from bosch or mcculloch, one of my friend had them for a year or so before it starting to poop and not start

hella, phillp

K is the temperture range, the anything more than 4300K you are lossing light output but you end up with some cool blueish color
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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how less effective are HID's if not used in a projector style lense???
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fw190bvi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how less effective are HID's if not used in a projector style lense??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

good question.....
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fw190bvi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how less effective are HID's if not used in a projector style lense??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

It depends on what you mean by effective. Projector style headlights will give a much better cutoff than reflector headlights but that doesn't mean that the light output is any different. Take a look at cars like the Acura TL and the Nissan Maxima that use reflector headlights with factory HIDs. If you plan on using HIDs in a reflector headlights, just make sure you get some casper shields which will reduce glare and improve the cutoff.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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is hte cutoff helpful or no, cuz i know my friend has an s2k and if ur goin down a hill, you cant see **** at the other end of hte hill
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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The cutoff is there so you don't blind everyone but it is not totally necessary.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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mcculloch is ****. dont get them.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 01:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by s.cali alan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mcculloch is ****. dont get them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thank you for vounching it..so it's truth, mcculloch is gay..just like the NJ governor
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhAtBoY Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It depends on what you mean by effective. Projector style headlights will give a much better cutoff than reflector headlights but that doesn't mean that the light output is any different. Take a look at cars like the Acura TL and the Nissan Maxima that use reflector headlights with factory HIDs. If you plan on using HIDs in a reflector headlights, just make sure you get some casper shields which will reduce glare and improve the cutoff.</TD></TR></TABLE>


There is a huge difference in the output between reflector and projector style HID headlights. I am not saying however, that a projector is automatically better than a reflector, but that depends on the design of the optics. If you look at effeciency ratings, projectors output more light than reflectors.
http://www.hidforum.com/ayh/about.php

And if you look at auto manufacturers, the 04TL and the newest maxima (i believe) have switched over to projector HIDs. The only reason to use reflector HIDs is that they cost less than projectors to manufacture.


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