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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Default Hid's with non-projector headlights?

would this be a bad idea? i mean i love the look of HID's but dont know if i should do it?

any ideas guys/gals?

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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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Some factory cars came like this. Acura TL being one of them. Whats the problem?
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Factory reflector based HID from OEM has a specail designed reflector for HID bulbs.

Your normal halogen reflector will give glare and blind people cause you'll light up the highbeam part and the low beam part.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Duh, retrofit. It sounds like the op thought HID's only come in the projector form?? Thats my guess.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (denshu)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by denshu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Factory reflector based HID from OEM has a specail designed reflector for HID bulbs.

Your normal halogen reflector will give glare and blind people cause you'll light up the highbeam part and the low beam part. </TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (prelude1897)

well im building my geo prizm (dont flame me) for a sleeper, and so far ive done a 4age swap with the basic I/H/E setup. and will later on boost it..

i love the total road light up it gives making everything much more visible and look is astonishing and eye catching lol. but i dont know how the quality of the light would be with my headlights.. i was thinking about going with a 5000k or 6000k bulb, none of that purple ricer **** lol.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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If you're worried about glare, just aim them downwards enough where you won't be blinding every other driver on the road. That should work.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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That defeats the purpose of good lighting, because your lighting up the ground and not the signs.

When i see people with plug and play kits on the highway, they aim it so low, they dont' even light up any signs and just the ground. When i roll by them, they probley wonder how the hell do i have such good lighting, lighting up the signs with a nice cut off and wide beam pattern with my retro fitted tsx projectors hehe
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (denshu)

not only will you have glare but rockin plug & play HID's in a halogen reflector housing will make the hot spots show out like crazy. I had a plug & play kit in my EJ8 and it was horrible.

now I'm rocking a E46 Bosch Bi-Xenon Projector Retrofit
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (aznlaoboi315)

what could i retrofit my prizm headlights with? lol
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 05:10 AM
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please do retrofit....too many kids asking for hid kits in HT lighting forums.. seriously half the questions are like hid kits are this and that...

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums have best source for retrofit...you can retro any projector if you have the space for it...

This is my retro FX35...

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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what about aftermarket headlights such as these? These are safe to use with HID, no? The middle lens looks like a HID type lens.

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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC_Civic08 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about aftermarket headlights such as these? These are safe to use with HID, no? The middle lens looks like a HID type lens.
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It's still not made for HID...you'll be much more happy with a retrofit
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (devani)

I agree with Devani ...Too many people asking about HID plug and play in honda-tech.

Someone should sticky some OEM HID info and why plug and play kits are bad
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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ok thanks
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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use whatever you can afford at the moment.
Oh yeah, HIDz increases horsepower!! The bluer the HIDz are, the more horsepower you will get!!
Here's a dyno to prove it:


Okay aside from all sarcasm, what you want is a proper HID setup.
A retrofit would yield some good results no doubt
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (striker_18)

i know not doing a retro wont give me the light output nor clearity i want. but i do think that retro-fitting is quite expensive correct?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (Fo-Do Fanatic)

fx + ballasts + bulbs = 160
retrofitting them yourself = priceless
PnP HID kit = 140
160 retrofit &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt ; 140 pnp kit
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (striker_18)

see thats the thing, i dont know if i have the skills nor tools to retro fit a set of headlights..... what are the best OEM HID's? or maybe just buy a kit?
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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If you look hard enough you can get all your stuff for about 100 bucks.
i can hook you up with Philips 85122+ bulbs for 20 a set(x2 bulbs).
I like matsushita generation 3 ballasts from infiniti/nissan
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Old Mar 25, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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i really do like the G35/350Z headlights..
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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Do you have any pics of your lights? Then we can give you a little more help as to which projectors would fit good into your housings. There are a few people here such as myself who can do a retrofit for you.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 07:53 AM
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Retro fit is the only way...Do it right the first time and save time and money.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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as a matter of a fact i do. let me look in my pictures real quick...

ok done.. this is pretty much what my Geo looks like... except i have different rims and my color blue is A LOT darker..no pictures of my geo since that my sister broke my camera.

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Hid's with non-projector headlights? (Fo-Do Fanatic)

here is another from the front and back, courtesy of Egay... they are single beam headlights and i would want my hi's and low's to both be HID's.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...08699
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