rebuild motor or get new motor?
hey guys, i currently have around 76,xxx miles on my integra. I don't know what needs to be replaced at this high mileage, " pistons, rings, nuts, bearings"?
its a 98 LS and i have about 3500 to spend.
should i go for FI and rebuild the pistons/rings or spend the money on get a lower mileage GSR motor?
If u guys recommend going FI....i would prolly need to save at least another grand before doing this project.
i would like my car to run for at least another 5-6 yrs so which makes more sense.
thanks for your opinions.
its a 98 LS and i have about 3500 to spend.
should i go for FI and rebuild the pistons/rings or spend the money on get a lower mileage GSR motor?
If u guys recommend going FI....i would prolly need to save at least another grand before doing this project.
i would like my car to run for at least another 5-6 yrs so which makes more sense.
thanks for your opinions.
76, 000 miles??? your motor should be no where near in need of a rebuild...Honda engines will go past 200,000 if u take care of them well. Mine has 118,000 miles and i beat the crap out it daily, and its a strong engine..anything below 100,000 miles for a honda is still considered a break in period...hahaha Peace!
If you're looking to get at least another 5 - 6 years out of your car, I personally would recommend you stay away from forced induction. Even if you do a really solid bottom end build-up, Hondas were simply never designed for it.
I don't have any real numbers here in front of me, but for the price of the rebuild/build-up plus a really good turbo system, I would guess you could have yourself one heck of a naturally aspirated GS-R motor, or even a Type R motor, and still have some change left over.
Good luck!
I don't have any real numbers here in front of me, but for the price of the rebuild/build-up plus a really good turbo system, I would guess you could have yourself one heck of a naturally aspirated GS-R motor, or even a Type R motor, and still have some change left over.
Good luck!
my engine just recently passed the 70k mark and i had to replace so my gaskets and belts and whatever is made of rubber in my car... i have been boosting for most of the engines life, though. Man just the cost on parts was insane... anyways, now that thats done, i hope it'll be good for a long long time! Basically do a major maintenence and check everything before you go FI. 76k miles is nothing on a honda engine if they have been well taken care of miles... with high boost turbo, you will definitely need a rebuild. Otherwise if you plan to stay at 10psi or under, you should be fine. Just make sure everything in the engine is in good condition.
thanks for everyones reply.....
if i stay and keep my LS motor...pretty much my only option is FI right?
heard soo many issues about LS/VTEC and its relibilitythat its turning me away from that project.
well...i'll looking into more of ppl's replys and then decide if i should go ahead and purchase a vtec motor.
thanks guys
if i stay and keep my LS motor...pretty much my only option is FI right?
heard soo many issues about LS/VTEC and its relibilitythat its turning me away from that project.
well...i'll looking into more of ppl's replys and then decide if i should go ahead and purchase a vtec motor.
thanks guys
Actually you will get more from a boosted LS than a boosted VTEC engine in terms of power and reliability. Why? Here's a quicky.
Boost + high compression = no no no no
ITR engines have compression that is WAY too high for boosting. Just check the Jackson Racing site and find that even with a basic kit, the Supercharged GSR puts down more power than the boosted ITR. Besides, an ITR engine is like $5.5k anyways.
GSR engines are about $3.5k but they too run a higher compression than the LS. Where as a safe boost for a GSR is 8lbs, the LS can be 9.5lbs (in my opinion).
So....
If you keep your LS engine and just change the belts and gaskets and do regular maintenance, you can spend $5k (10lb boost setup) and drop in a carb legal Greddy turbo charger with the works (fuel system, ignition, intercooler, boost controller, turbo timer, gauges, etc) and walk away with a fairly fast running car with minimal additional engine wear.
My GSR engine is at 110k miles in 5 years and I drive that sucker hard (redline freeway entering and 3 gear drop passing, etc) and I never had a problem other than a cracked radiator (damn honda and their plastic radiators). I even had a supercharger I contemplated on installing but sold it for a future turbo.
Boost + high compression = no no no no
ITR engines have compression that is WAY too high for boosting. Just check the Jackson Racing site and find that even with a basic kit, the Supercharged GSR puts down more power than the boosted ITR. Besides, an ITR engine is like $5.5k anyways.
GSR engines are about $3.5k but they too run a higher compression than the LS. Where as a safe boost for a GSR is 8lbs, the LS can be 9.5lbs (in my opinion).
So....
If you keep your LS engine and just change the belts and gaskets and do regular maintenance, you can spend $5k (10lb boost setup) and drop in a carb legal Greddy turbo charger with the works (fuel system, ignition, intercooler, boost controller, turbo timer, gauges, etc) and walk away with a fairly fast running car with minimal additional engine wear.
My GSR engine is at 110k miles in 5 years and I drive that sucker hard (redline freeway entering and 3 gear drop passing, etc) and I never had a problem other than a cracked radiator (damn honda and their plastic radiators). I even had a supercharger I contemplated on installing but sold it for a future turbo.
I dont necessarily agree with that.
Slap a 6PSI Drag kit on a GSR. Install the same kit on an LS. Youre telling me the LS will make more power, as well as stay "more reliable?" If both engines are taken care of, whos to say which will last longer. You cant make a blanket statement that the GSR engine wont be as reliable. Not only that, but we wont even discuss which will make more power or be quicker
And boost + high compression = great #'s. The reason the Jackson kit doesnt make as much power on an ITR isnt because of the compression...with that logic, why does it make the least power on the LS?
First things first, do a leakdown and compression test. Then make your decision...I say absolutely go turbo. Then if you end up needing a rebuild, then do that down the road. Buying the GSR engine and swapping it into your car just seems pointless to me.
Get turbo, Marvin...you wont regret it
Slap a 6PSI Drag kit on a GSR. Install the same kit on an LS. Youre telling me the LS will make more power, as well as stay "more reliable?" If both engines are taken care of, whos to say which will last longer. You cant make a blanket statement that the GSR engine wont be as reliable. Not only that, but we wont even discuss which will make more power or be quicker
And boost + high compression = great #'s. The reason the Jackson kit doesnt make as much power on an ITR isnt because of the compression...with that logic, why does it make the least power on the LS?First things first, do a leakdown and compression test. Then make your decision...I say absolutely go turbo. Then if you end up needing a rebuild, then do that down the road. Buying the GSR engine and swapping it into your car just seems pointless to me.
Get turbo, Marvin...you wont regret it

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my gs-r is pushing 100K with no problem I would wait til at least 125K that gives you time to save for all the parts. I also would not go FI if you plan on keeping the car for a while, I think if I were in your position this is what I would do, or plan to do.
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