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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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When i was wiring up my fuel cutoff switch today, i couldnt get these butt connectors to work. I tried 6 times and it wouldnt work.

So i just stripped the wires, overlapped them, and wrapped them with an assload of electric tape. is there going to be any bad coming from this?

I took it on a run to sonic drivein and it did fine.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 04:50 AM
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I imagine it should be ok.. i personally would solder the connection.. the connection is a bit more important then just IE a speaker being electic taped together. if the wire ever does come loose this might have some serious problems later on down the road. (my friend hooked up a cutoff for his fuel and the switch gave a poor connection when the weather was cold, so the car wouldn't start, so might want to redo your wiring just a bit to be on the safe side)
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kyoushu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When i was wiring up my fuel cutoff switch today, i couldnt get these butt connectors to work. I tried 6 times and it wouldnt work.

So i just stripped the wires, overlapped them, and wrapped them with an assload of electric tape. is there going to be any bad coming from this?

I took it on a run to sonic drivein and it did fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have never heard of butt connectors not working. You are probably using the wrong sized connectors for the wires you are trying to splice. Connectors come in different colors corresponding to the wire gauge. Red=18-22g, Blue=14-16g, Yellow=10-12g. Also, I trust that you are using a crimp tool and not just pliers. Also crimp on the right location on the connector.


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I would definately redo your connections with connectors. The power wire to and from the fuel pump is one of the most crucial wires in your car. They hack job you did now will likely come apart since electrical tape tend to get soft and stretchy when hot.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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Yea you definitely want to redo it with butt connectors or solder.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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solder...solder....solder.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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ok thanks. i was using 18 guage wire and red connectors. They douche at radioshack said pliers should be ok, but i guess not.

thanks for the help.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Definately solder then tape. As far as butt connectors go, I hate them because the wire tends to come out no matter how good you crimp it.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 02:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Auex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Definately solder then tape. As far as butt connectors go, I hate them because the wire tends to come out no matter how good you crimp it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whoa there sparky...It all depends on what type of crimp tool you're
using. If you are using that BS multi tool that comes in the kits,it will
never hold. I have crimpers by T&B,Klien and Channellock that will
hold a crimp. If you do any type of electrical work on your car ( and
most of use do ), spend the $20 at your local home improvement
store. You'll be glad you did.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 05:09 AM
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Yea, I've never had a crimp connection undo itself.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 05:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Auex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Definately solder then tape. As far as butt connectors go, I hate them because the wire tends to come out no matter how good you crimp it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If this is your experience with butt connectors, then you were not doing it correctly and/or were not using the right tools. For fun, I crimped two wires together and pulled on the ends as hard as I could. The insulation came off but the wires were still held together. Of course, in actual use, the wires will never experience such high forces.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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go to home depot, i got a hundred pack of butt connectors for like 4 bucks or so. you can use pliers to krimp them, i do anyway. mine have some pretty big teeth on them though.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:40 AM
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I just use solder with either an electric or butane iron, only takes a few seconds and will never shake undone
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just use solder with either an electric or butane iron, only takes a few seconds and will never shake undone</TD></TR></TABLE>
Solder by far the best way, will never come apart, never oxydize. and use heatshrink not elec.tape. 94
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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i got a friend coming over today to help me solder it! thanks.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kontai69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If this is your experience with butt connectors, then you were not doing it correctly and/or were not using the right tools. For fun, I crimped two wires together and pulled on the ends as hard as I could. The insulation came off but the wires were still held together. Of course, in actual use, the wires will never experience such high forces.</TD></TR></TABLE>


WTF kind of crimp tool did you use!!!!!?????
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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I don't care whether you are using the 17 dollar channel lock crimpers or the 65 dollar snap on crimpers, butt connectors still suck. And no matter how well you crimp it, it will come loose eventually. Oh, and before you start questioning tools, unless you can come up with more then $10,000 in reciepts for your tools then don't question mine.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Auex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't care whether you are using the 17 dollar channel lock crimpers or the 65 dollar snap on crimpers, butt connectors still suck. And no matter how well you crimp it, it will come loose eventually. Oh, and before you start questioning tools, unless you can come up with more then $10,000 in reciepts for your tools then don't question mine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lmfao! man get a grip, you are coparing who has spent $10,000 when you can't even crimp a butt conecter

even i have crimped them with a flipping hammer AND THEY STICK
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Stop the fight!
I think, you can do a good job by using either method if you know how to use the tools. If you don't know how to solder, you can leave a cold soldered connection. If you don't know how to crip, you'll leave a loose connection.

By the books and experience, the best connections are done by soldering and properly insulating.

Eric
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eric’s R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stop the fight!
I think, you can do a good job by using either method if you know how to use the tools. If you don't know how to solder, you can leave a cold soldered connection. If you don't know how to crip, you'll leave a loose connection.

By the books and experience, the best connections are done by soldering and properly insulating.

Eric</TD></TR></TABLE> Dito that.
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