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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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Hi guys,
My friend has a jdm itr 98 spec and don't know exactly what is the sequence to bleed the system.It has abs barkes.
Some help please....
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Right rear
Left rear
Right front
Left front

If it's 98-Spec then there is no separate procedure for bleeding the ABS system, since there is no separate reservoir.

If you have a pedal that's too soft after carefully bleeding, be aware that some people have had better luck bleeding the calipers with the motor running. According to them, this helps bleed the ABS system of burned brake fluid that might be trapped there.

I regard the information about the motor running as apocryphal, since I have not done it myself. I can usually get a decently firm pedal using the bleeding sequence I spoke of.

You might want to contact Willard Harris or Jack Harris about bleeding the ITR ABS. If anybody's ever been able to do it right, it'd be them.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... some people have had better luck bleeding the calipers with the motor running. </TD></TR></TABLE>

More likely the engine vacuum helps to more fully and completely complete the bleeding process.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Right rear
Left rear
Right front
Left front

If it's 98-Spec then there is no separate procedure for bleeding the ABS system, since there is no separate reservoir.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it's actually completely backwards on the ABS equipped Integras as my helms states the bleeding procedure as:

front left
front right
rear right
rear left

My luck has been a bit better with the car turned on and getting the ABS pump to prime, meaning the driving wheels have to be moving like 10km/h before you hear the "BrrRrrrT" sound.

Edit: Can't find my helms anywhere.... bastard friends who borrow and never return.....
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RagingAngel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think it's actually completely backwards on the ABS equipped Integras as my helms states the bleeding procedure as:

front left
front right
rear right
rear left

My luck has been a bit better with the car turned on and getting the ABS pump to prime, meaning the driving wheels have to be moving like 10km/h before you hear the "BrrRrrrT" sound.


Edit: Can't find my helms anywhere.... bastard friends who borrow and never return..... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats how I bleed my brakes and so far no problems and a nice firm pedal up to date.

On the other hand, I have never bleed my brakes with the car on.


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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Hi guys..
I'm the guy that's in the problem..
While we where in the bleeding process,i was pressing the brake and JDM97R was bleedin the pipes.I wasn't sure enough how much i had to press the pedal,so i sort of pressed it all the way through!
Do you think i riuned the master cylinder?? I noticed that while the engine is off,the pedal is really firm....
Help pls..
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jdm 98spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi guys..
I'm the guy that's in the problem..
While we where in the bleeding process,i was pressing the brake and JDM97R was bleedin the pipes.I wasn't sure enough how much i had to press the pedal,so i sort of pressed it all the way through!
Do you think i riuned the master cylinder?? I noticed that while the engine is off,the pedal is really firm....
Help pls.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, you probably didn't ruin it. LOL...

However, it's true that when you are bleeding brakes, it's not a good idea to press the pedal all the way to the floor. 75% of the way is fine.

The problem with pressing the pedal all the way to the floor is that you are pressing beyond the normal actuation point for the brakes, which could mean you're pushing the seals past rough places, or even slightly corroded places that'll damage the seals.

I think I explained that right.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Help....bleed abs (Jdm 98spec R)

According to past posts, some people indicated they could never get it all the way bled without driving it. Actuating the ABS with the car moving seemed to free up bubbles in the ABS unit itself, that were impossible to get any other way.

They then repeated the bleed after the drive/ABS actuation, and everything was fine.
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