How did you guys run your catch cans on your allmotor h22's?

 

PCV system:

(intake before TB)->(crank case in, passenger side)->(crank case out, driver side)->(PCV valve)->(Catch can)->(intake after TB)

 

any one got a picture that they can post up? I would like to see / discuss these?

Purpose?

 

purpose is to catch oil before it gets in your intake manifold and gets nasty and puts oil in your intake

 

I'll post a pic of mine in a bit when I have a chance.

 

I am running a catch can setup on my H22 with ITBs.

I have found that the PCV valve does not work correctly if you try to vent the gases to the atmosphere after the catch can. It makes the car VERY smokey.

I have the following setup:

Hollowed out PCV > Catch can > hose out the bottom of the car.

 

pics/diagrams?

 

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(intake before TB)-&gt;(crank case in, passenger side)-&gt;(crank case out, driver side)-&gt;(PCV valve)-&gt;(Catch can)-&gt;(intake after TB)</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's sort of a diagam, and is the right way to do it.

 

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That's sort of a diagam, and is the right way to do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I do have mine currently installed as described above, but after some searching around I've seen that the B series blocks are using upto 2 breather ports (and much larger plumbing) than our H blocks. So, is it possible and beneficial to run a more advanced breather system as shown on this B series block?

 

I don't really get how that one would work . . . . why is there a return line teed back into the outlet? And both of those outlets are coming from under the intake manifold (not present, obviously) - what about the stock PCV outlet?

 

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(intake before TB)-&gt;(crank case in, passenger side)-&gt;(crank case out, driver side)-&gt;(PCV valve)-&gt;(Catch can)-&gt;(intake after TB)
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Mine is set up as noted above except for the PCV VALVE...it's AFTER the catch can, on top of my Morroso (replaces the vent into the atmosphere).

 

that is a completely different catch can system, that motor comes factory with a catch can so B series are out of the question, if anyone has pics of there H series one installed that would be great

 

Well, I don't have a good pic of mine. I replaced the PCV valve in the valve cover with an elbow, ran a hose from there to the side of my Moroso can, put a PCV valve on the top of the can, and ran a hose from the valve to a port between the throttle body and the blower. It works, I get several ounces of an oil/water mix in it every three months (the water is from condensation in the can).

 

hmm sounds good, so what do you do with the point where the pcv was going to the intake manifold?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmcivicferio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm sounds good, so what do you do with the point where the pcv was going to the intake manifold?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who me? There's a blower where the intake plenum used to be

 

pics?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, I don't have a good pic of mine. I replaced the PCV valve in the valve cover with an elbow, ran a hose from there to the side of my Moroso can, put a PCV valve on the top of the can, and ran a hose from the valve to a port between the throttle body and the blower. It works, I get several ounces of an oil/water mix in it every three months (the water is from condensation in the can).</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are probably putting alot of excess oil in your catch can because you have your PCV after your catchan, this would make your catch can the same pressure as your crank case at all times so oil can get shot in there even under regular conditions, the purpose of your catch can is to catch the oil when your PCV valve opens, not when it is closed

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speedra500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are probably putting alot of excess oil in your catch can because you have your PCV after your catchan, this would make your catch can the same pressure as your crank case at all times so oil can get shot in there even under regular conditions, the purpose of your catch can is to catch the oil when your PCV valve opens, not when it is closed</TD></TR></TABLE>
You may be right about this. I've thought about this, and have been considering moving the pcv valve back to its stock location and then putting an elbow at the top of the can.

In any case, what I get in the can really isn't that much oil. There is a lot of water from condensation in the can over time, looks like chocolate milk or well brewed espresso, and the total volume is like 4 ounces every 3-4 months.

 

routed in in yesturday seems to work pretty good

 

Cant see the catch can in the pic, but you can see how it's routed.

 

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You may be right about this. I've thought about this, and have been considering moving the pcv valve back to its stock location and then putting an elbow at the top of the can.

In any case, what I get in the can really isn't that much oil. There is a lot of water from condensation in the can over time, looks like chocolate milk or well brewed espresso, and the total volume is like 4 ounces every 3-4 months.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I get the same "well brewed espresso", but at a volume of 4 ounces every 6 months. I'm sure your blown engine accounts for the add'l usage over mine.

Any more thoughts on moving the pcv valve back to its stock location? I guess we could use the stock pcv valve then too, right? (I'm using Fram PV294..and its like having a rattle snake under the hood)

 

i was wondering also on how to install my catch can but this is for a turbod h22