SO The eluced H22 swap into a Ef, or in my case, and 88-89 HF

I finished my car this past week and seriously, Im just not happy with it.

I NEEEEEED to make a sleeper. SO I was talking with my friends about just getting an 88 HF and building a turbo d series, but Im not to technical and have no shops or resources in my small canadian town.

So it hit me, H22 SLEEEPER

I want some advise on how reasonable it is do it now adays. Ive read 2point2 thread and many others but he did it the really hard way my making his own mounts and such and took 2 years I think

Do any companies make a mount kit now? How hard would it be to install an H22 with one of these ktis, whats involved.

Ive got the money for either the car or the motor right now but need some help if its right for me or not. Ill be putting the car on the bottle so its defientely gonna be fast

Axles, Ecu, Shift Linkage, OBD what etc etc

Thanks, hope it helps a few others as well

 

its def a great motor for a sleeper but is this car only for drag racing? i guess u know ur gonna say bye bye to handeling?

 

Have you read 2point2 thread? Speciafically says handling isnt really hurt. Im not into autocross anyways, just daily driving and the occasional stop light races, dont rip through mountains or turns in town fast because it draws attention and there just isnt anywhere to do it.

 

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If you think a turbo D series is hard,do not attempt an h22 swap. Just give up before you begin and look down another path. Plus you said no shops or resources I think it is pretty obviuos you shouldn't do a h22 swap

 

There are absolutely no shops around that have the ability to do a swap let along tune a boosted car.

The swap would be done by myself, jsut wanna know what Im getting into, I did my sohc zc swap bymyself and Im only 18 and have never touched a motor before then, installed my own nitrous kit.

I know an H22 will be harder but I thought hasport was realeasing or already realeased an h22 mount kit for the ef

 

just a word of advice

yes the h motor is bigger, but the aftermarket for them is much smaller and more expensive, and h motors usually dont put out any better hp numbers than b series all motor setups, due to fact the cams are very limited to the lift they can run and are already running alot of duration but they can make power.

so just do a b16 swap and turbo it, you will be happy with the results

 

Im not trying to knock you or anything, but if you have only done a ZC into a EF before, do not try to do a h22 ef, you have to make custom mounts, wiring, cutting welding, etc etc the list goes on. Stick with a B series motor and you will do fine..

importboi22:.. You can get a lot more from a H series then you could with a B series, I have cam gears, header and rail and tunning and pulled 201.6HP, with my ITR with JUN 3, JE 11.5, ANR header,etc etc... 198.3.. I say if you have the skills and the abilty to do the H series then do it...

 

What about a b20?

Everyone and there mom hasa b16 motor now adays in an EF, just wanted to try something new to make it a sleeper

H22's are cheap as fawk as well

 

im just saying from my experiences, im a bseries type of person, if you like the hseries more power to you. I just dont like the axle placement on h series swaps.

 

just do a CrVtec if you have the money. It is a good swap.. and makes good power

 

Im doing the H22 swap once I get the money. Someone I kno that lives not far away from me, his dad owns a job or something, and he said they would be able to do it. I have a freshly installed B16a with type r cams in my crx right now, but I want to go to the extreme, H22a. Too many people flame me for it, they say go B18c instead, i tell them to go suck a nut because I wanna do what I want. Its going to cost me around $3k, but its worth every penny. Im not in a rush to have it done either, just want it done by the end of the summer. So i want the H22a to go along with my Black Widow kit, mmmm feelin it.

 

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That was not a problem at all... There was no problems with axles, and you can use OEM axles not ones that you have to alter.

 

any pics of the angle?

 

I will get some up for you tomorrow...

 

These threads always **** me off. There's always too many people telling you that it'll handle poorly. My message to them;

Have you done this swap or are you regurgitating what you saw someone else say?
Have you ever even driven any car with an H22?
Why don't you tell people not to add a turbo, blower, or A/C to their B series because of the weight?
How much heavier do you think the H is over the B?

The H is a powerful engine even in stock form, but like the other guy said, not too much aftermarket stuff for them and transmissions seem hard to find.

If the weight scares you remove the extras like balance shafts, A/C, power steering. Put the battery in the trunk etc.

If there was a bolt in kit for my CRX, you can count on the fact that I'd have one.
I've ridden in a 93+ hatch w/ an H22 E/H and I've ridden in one with a type R I/E/H.
The H22 dominates.
Handling is affected but 95% of the time you'll be fine. If you corner like the cops are chasing you then you might have an issue. It's not the semi truck on bicycle tires people make it out to be.

 

Have you seen the other thread where the H22 is mated to a B-series tranny?

That's the way to go.

You get to use everything you would normally use for a B swap so the axles sit right and youretain the shift linkage rather than goin cable.

He made a 3/8" adaptor plate to go between the motor and tranny. Appartently everything engaged properly for the starter and clutch. IF you were worried about it, I guess you could make a 3/8' to go between the flywheel and crank.

The thread ahs been locked.. it's old
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=790502

The original creator started a new one and for some reason he doesn't get on here and update his progress...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=790502