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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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what is a good metal head gasket and block guard

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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowsohccivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is a good metal head gasket and block guard

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For what engine?

You guys are killing me with the vague-*** topics.



P.S - Block guards SUCK ****.
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Good metal head gasket for boost, N/A?

More info will help us help you.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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BTW:

Boost - contact Cometic and/or do a search here on H-T in the Forced Induction Forum and type in keyword "cometic."

N/A - O.E honda is just fine, or if you want a thinner one try Mugen or Spoon.

Again the seach function might help around here.
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boost

what about a block guard?

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how come block guards suck?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChkN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how come block guards suck? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Because they pinch the tops of the cylinders and create hotspots.

Look at any high horsepower boosted build - they will be sleeved, not some shitty block guard.

The only way a block guard is worth a **** is if you install it and THEN get it bored AFTER so that the bore isn't toghter at the tops of the cylinders.

Even still a block guard is only a ghetto cheapy wannabe closed deck design.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Because they pinch the tops of the cylinders and create hotspots.

Look at any high horsepower boosted build - they will be sleeved, not some shitty block guard.

The only way a block guard is worth a **** is if you install it and THEN get it bored AFTER so that the bore isn't toghter at the tops of the cylinders.

Even still a block guard is only a ghetto cheapy wannabe closed deck design.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahh i seee... thanks for that tid bit
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would sleeving ur motor be safe? say for running about 15-20 psi of boost? only asking cuz i know a guy prepping for turbo and thats what he did to his block. sleeved and block gaurd. should i tell him to dump the block guard?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by butters &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

When you guys are talking about block guards, are you referring to block girdles? same thing or different?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.

Block girdle is a device that connects the main caps in the very bottom of a block.

Block girdles are found on stock B18C1 and B18C5 engines. they promote strength and are bad-***.

Block guards are those little ***** that you push into the open deck at the top of the cylinders. They are supposed to help strengthen the tops of the cylinders by keeping the floating cylinders from moving, but they are **** IMO.

The only way to truly do a closed deck design is to have a block sleeved with the likes of a Darton T Sleeve or AEBS, etc.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ChkN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would sleeving ur motor be safe? say for running about 15-20 psi of boost? only asking cuz i know a guy prepping for turbo and thats what he did to his block. sleeved and block gaurd. should i tell him to dump the block guard?

B18c1</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sleeving is safe depending on what type of sleeves. If he's having sleeves with an open deck design and adding a block guard, I say **** that.

The only way I'd sleeve a block is what I just posted above - closed deck designed specifically for turbo.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sleeving is safe depending on what type of sleeves. If he's having sleeves with an open deck design and adding a block guard, I say **** that.

The only way I'd sleeve a block is what I just posted above - closed deck designed specifically for turbo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahhh. good thing the motor is not done yet. limme go have a talk with him. he did sleeve with an open deck and then thru in the block guard. not sure what kind of sleeves tho. anyways thanks for ur info mang
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Default Re: metal head gasket and block guard (ChkN)

do have to sleeve the block to have a block guard?

do you have to have machine work done to the block to have it sleeved?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowsohccivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do have to sleeve the block to have a block guard?

do you have to have machine work done to the block to have it sleeved?</TD></TR></TABLE>

from what i understand, u have to bore out the block and install sleeves. i could be wrong. also hondas, for the most part, are open deck, so u could just install a block guard. thats my understanding i could be wrong
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowsohccivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do have to sleeve the block to have a block guard?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have to have machine work done to the block to have it sleeved?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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ok one more question

what do you think of manley rods
and what is a good pistons

i am looking at the srp pistons from J & E

i am looking to run a t4 turbo at 15psi or a little more


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