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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 05:04 AM
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Title says it all. Can't tell from the rule book.

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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 05:18 AM
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Im pretty sure they are legal even though the rulebook doesn't specifically state that. Plus, it's impossible to tell a cryo-treated rotor from a non cryo-treated rotor.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 05:36 AM
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Technically, No (it doesn't say you can, so you can't).

But, as Matt mentioned, there isn't a way to differentiate cryo from non-cryo.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 05:54 AM
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My understanding is that coatings and platings are not legal. However, since cryogenically treating a rotor does not put a coating or plating on the rotor, that it is, in fact, legal by exclusion.

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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 07:01 AM
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Default Re: Are cryo treated rotors legal in Stock? (CarbotechAndie)

From the Solo Rulebook:

13.6 Brakes
A. The make and material of brake linings may be changed.
B. [SS braided lines] on all cars manufactured before modle year 1992.

That is all it says.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 09:50 AM
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Do cryo-treated rotors make that much of a difference for a SoloII car? My understanding is that cryo-treating reduces the rotor's tendency to warp and crack, but I wasn't aware of any performance benefit otherwise. Have you had rotor-life issues previously?
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 09:53 AM
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Technically I think Crack Monkey's right. It's not in there, so no go.

I'm curious if you've had problems with the brakes too - or are the same brakes seeing duty on road courses?
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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Warping -none yet but I consistently warped rotors on my delSol. Of course, the ITR has much better brakes and I have learned to drive better. But I am going to start LFB next season and may be heating them a lot more.

I've begun upping the ante on the whole brake system with better than stock pads, better than stock fluid, speed bleeders and thought this might be a logical step.

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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 12:05 PM
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I'm running a set of cryo'd rotors with Porterfield R4 pads (F and R), and it seems to have made the rotors wear noticably less.
However, I am comparing the R4 & cryo'd rotor set-up, with running Porterfield R4E pads on non-cryo'd rotors (which really "machined" the rotors during street use). FWIW
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 12:25 PM
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Do cryo-treated rotors make that much of a difference for a SoloII car? My understanding is that
cryo-treating reduces the rotor's tendency to warp and crack, but I wasn't aware of any performance
benefit otherwise. Have you had rotor-life issues previously?
This is how I see it too. I can't see how anyone would protest you over this, unless they are the largest ******* ever.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 12:40 PM
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Default Re: Are cryo treated rotors legal in Stock? (MaddMatt)

This is how I see it too. I can't see how anyone would protest you over this, unless they are the largest ******* ever.
There are a few out there, especially at the National level...Alan, knows as well as anyone.
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Old Oct 18, 2001 | 12:47 PM
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I'm running a set of cryo'd rotors with Porterfield R4 pads (F and R), and it seems to have made the rotors wear noticably less.
However, I am comparing the R4 & cryo'd rotor set-up, with running Porterfield R4E pads on non-cryo'd rotors (which really "machined" the rotors during street use). FWIW
Where did you get your cryo'd rotors and how much did it cost.. I EAT rotors! Might wanna give them a try..
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Old Oct 19, 2001 | 01:22 PM
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Where did you get your cryo'd rotors and how much did it cost.. I EAT rotors! Might wanna give them a try..
Corey, these rotors were purchased from Porterfield for about $110 ea. (they send them out to get treated at about $30, per)

I've recently spoken with Dean at Applied Rotor Technologies (see post https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=74080 ), and we were discussing a price of $85 ea (F/R) for non-slotted/cryo'd/nickel plated (washed) rotors (still about $30 per for the cryo treatment). /Ed
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 12:46 PM
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If road racing, YES.

17.37. CRYOGENIC TREATMENT
Cryogenic treatment of components is allowed unless specifically
prohibited in the category or class preparation rules.
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