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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Haynes say the oil should be filled towards the upper hole on the dipstick is that correct?

well i got and oil change done at some shop like 3 days ago, right at the middle of the 2 holes when i checked, now today i check its under the 1st hole... i dont see any leaks or anything, what else can it be? oil is still clear also... anyone know what might be the issue? thanks.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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If there's no oil at the bottom, you can be burning it out the exhaust if your rings are going bad. You can check that with a compression test.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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You might be burning mad oil..do you see any smoke of any color coming out the exhaust?
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bagged93accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might be burning mad oil..do you see any smoke of any color coming out the exhaust?</TD></TR></TABLE>

white smoke but barely, like everyother car u see on cold days...

and compression test ill get that done this weekend...

i just added a extra bottle to it, and its up to mark, if by sunday or something its half gone again ill get the test done... thanks!
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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Good luck brodda..
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Burning oil.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Gimmie a run down on how I should do the compression test?
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:47 AM
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I was having the same problem as you, very high oil consumption. I use Honda filters HOWEVER Honda changed teh design of them. I tightened them as it said on the filter and apparently it was leaking between oil changes. So with that said before you go checking compression and all, see if there is any oil leaking around the filter, my leak was not making it to the ground due to burning off on the exhaust. Just a quick check before you go any other route. Hope this helps! BTW The parts guy at the dealership mentioned that the new filters are touchy as far as correct tightening.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 05:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by briq4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was having the same problem as you, very high oil consumption. I use Honda filters HOWEVER Honda changed teh design of them. I tightened them as it said on the filter and apparently it was leaking between oil changes. So with that said before you go checking compression and all, see if there is any oil leaking around the filter, my leak was not making it to the ground due to burning off on the exhaust. Just a quick check before you go any other route. Hope this helps! BTW The parts guy at the dealership mentioned that the new filters are touchy as far as correct tightening. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no i checked everything for leaks already and none at all... Oil seems to be fine today when i checked, but something just doesnt feel right about the car.. like under low acceleration, you feel a slight lag, kind of like u feel it pulling, then it loses a little power then i have to press on the gas a little harder to get it going smooth again... i got redline fuelinjector cleaner, changed the injectors, clenaed the tb... still feels kind of weird... that comrpession test sounds about right,,, its been like 60-70 k and i havent done it yet... thanks for all the help, ill update after i get everything done...
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 07:03 AM
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Now that I think about it, I do have some oil residuce under the car. The pressure might be pushing thru the filter seal and burning onto the exhaust like you said. I will check that. Thanks.

How do you cut the fuel so that I can do a compression test?
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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Both my moms '94 Accord and my dads '89 Accord had mysterious oil disappearing issues, with no burning and no leaking. Both of them it turned out to be the PCV valve, usually stuck open (or missing the entire plunger, LOL). Take the PCV valve out and shake it, see if it rattles (or if you can see straight through it). If it doesn't rattle or you can see through it, replace it cuz that's causing the problem.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by do0dfromcali &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gimmie a run down on how I should do the compression test? </TD></TR></TABLE>

What you do is take out all the spark plugs. Then starting from the #1 cylinder, insert the end of the compression tester into the spard plug hole and screw in. Give the motor a few cranks from the ignition and read the gauge. Continue down the row until all are completed. I think it should be up around 190 I think. Not sure though. All should be around 15-20 of each other.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by do0dfromcali &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you cut the fuel so that I can do a compression test?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't have to cut the fuel to do compression test, just pull the plugs.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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i was outside today doing a check on everything and seems its losing oil once again, this time i see the bottom of my cap is moist with oil but not dripping, so i check the bottom of my car and i see the metal pan is kinda moist also but not dripping anything... anyone know what might be the problem?? gasket needs replacing? or should i just use a bottle of them engine stop leaks stuff ?? thanks
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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i never seen a oil pan before.. nor where its located.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sh0rti &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i never seen a oil pan before.. nor where its located.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry let me repeat myself in better details.. i pinpointed the location to my distriutor, something there is leaking very slowly,i took the sucker apart and checked the o ring but that seemed fine, no cracks... is there anything else i should look for?? im thinking i should replace the o ring anyway, but wanna know are there anyother stuff i might need to pick up along the way... thanks...
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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I have the same problem. I bought a 1994 Honda Accord EX. I'm the third owner.
The first owner drove it for 67K miles. The second one for 2K.

It had a clean body and looked neat when i bought it. The oil was low - Below the second hole.
First thing i did was an oil change. 200 miles... and oil indicator started blinking... No visible oil leak around the engine... no oil strains in parked area.

I filled 5 Quarts ( was between the two holes more towards the upper hole) and drove 300 miles.... and the the oil level went below the second hole.

There is no oil burning smell and the exhaust is white... no fuel smell or any particles...

I don't know anything about cars and this is my first car.

I tool it to a mechanic and he said that he has to had some fluid... is not explaining what fluid it is. Since he didn't have the time, he did not fix it .. i said i'lll come another day.

Can someone advice me on what i should look for... what i should ask the mechanic... and what could be the problem?

Appreciate any kind of help
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Sangeetha
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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I read something about compression test in this thread... can someone please tell me what it is/ how is it to be done?

Thanks
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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try going under the car and see if theres oil around the block... its pretty hard to see unless u clean the sucker off first, then wait a day or 2 and recheck to pinpoint it.. if theres nothing then try doing the compression test, youll need a tester, maybe like 40 -50 at autozone? or u can pay a mechanic to do it, not sure how much theyll charge u though...

if not try some of these, somethign u can do at home
check the vavle cover for leaks,
check side of distributor (thats where mine was leaking)
check if oil filter is tight.
check drain bolt if tight.

these are the simple ones i can think of good luck!
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply Mike.

I don't know how to do the things that you have mentioned

clean the sucker - how? where is it? compression test - how to do it?
check the vavle cover for leaks - how? where is the valve?
check side of distributor (thats where mine was leaking) Where is the distributor?
check if oil filter is tight. Where is the oil filter?
check drain bolt if tight. where is this?
I'm sorry i don't know anything about cars... Please tell me this if you have the patience.

Thanks
Sangeetha
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sangeetha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the quick reply Mike.

I don't know how to do the things that you have mentioned

clean the sucker - how? where is it? compression test - how to do it?
check the vavle cover for leaks - how? where is the valve?
check side of distributor (thats where mine was leaking) Where is the distributor?
check if oil filter is tight. Where is the oil filter?
check drain bolt if tight. where is this?
I'm sorry i don't know anything about cars... Please tell me this if you have the patience.

Thanks
Sangeetha
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http://www.hondaautomotivepart...gry5=

on the roll down menu, just select the part and itll show you how the part looks and what you might need to change if thats the location of the leak..
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Have you been checking the oil right after you drive or is the engine cold? If you're checking it right after you drive and it seems a little low, then some of the oil probably hasn't made it's way back down to the oil pan from the head. That would explain why it was all there when you checked it a few days later and the car had a chance to drain. Then after checking again once driven it was probably low again. If you have a leak you're going to know it. A drop of oil looks like Exxon Valdise once you drive because all kinds of grime gets stuck to it. There's a couple of ideas you can look into.

Hope that helps.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks Mike , The link was very useful.

I checked the PCV Valve and it did not rattle (i belive it is supposed to) but my mechanic did not check that .. he just added one of those additives to block the oil leak.

So far i have not noticed any decrease in oil level... but i'm going to be monitoring it.

Thanks to all who have posted tips and messages here!!!

-Sangeetha


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