Most of you will notice that this is my 1st post here.. I've had modded VW's for a couple of years now, and since i'm now selling my n2o'd scirocco, i'm thinking about replacement options.

This car came up in a vwvortex.com forum, and since i'm unfamiliar with hondas/acuras, i'm wondering if any of you know of it personally, or can tell me whether the asking price is worth a drive out to Jersey to take a better look at it.







45k reblit eng. with LS VETEC setup. (typeR head)
*T3/T4 turbo
*HOOKER headers
*HKS wastegate
*VORTEC BOV
*310cc RC igjectors
*LEATHER interior
*FMIC
*BOOST&AIR/FUEL
ASKING! $8500


any comments? i'd greatly appreciate them

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emilie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
45k reblit eng. with LS VETEC setup. (typeR head)
*T3/T4 turbo
*HOOKER headers
*HKS wastegate
*VORTEC BOV
*310cc RC igjectors
*LEATHER interior
*FMIC
*BOOST&AIR/FUEL
ASKING! $8500

- I can tell you that, 1st, turbo cars dont have headers- and i think 310's are kinda small for the power potential of this car. I would get a compression test, and test drive it for sure, see how smooth the power band is... But if i were you, i would just try to find a not so modded car...


any comments? i'd greatly appreciate them </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

How many miles on chassis? What year? Clear/Salvage Title? Is the 45k on the lsvtec? What fuel management? Who built the motor? These are all very important ? you need to find out.

The car looks nice, paint looks great, for what you've told us so far the price seems great, and worth looking at.

The only downfall I see is that your a Honda/Acura Noob, with that being said I don't think a Turbo honda is something you would want to jump in to. Im not a fan of buying other peoples projects because I like to know exactly whats been done to the car, so my opinion is probabaly biased, but if your willing to learn and the car checks out it seems like a good buy

 

damn, that's a pretty clean little car.

I dont think that's a "header" though. Looks like a Lovefab or Fullrace manifold to me.

IMO, run the vin see what's shakin. But like the other guy said. I wouldn't buy such a modded car. However, that car is asthetically nice. Buy one that looks good, but with less mods so you can put whatever you want on there, and not buy into someone elses speed.

 

thanks for the replies

obviously there can be a ton of quirks or just sloppy work that's been done with a turbo'd car... but a lot of those should become obvious by looking under the hood, checking the wiring and such and by test driving it, shouldn't it?
this particular car caught my attention because i've already been through the dubious joys of putting together my own car.. cams, downpipe and exhaust, ported head, different engine management system, chip tuning, nitrous.. and it's more of an expense and a pain than i'd want to go through again if i can buy something that someone else has already done the work to.

 

What you have to question is the quality of work. Having something done and having it done right are 2 different things.

Also, turbo systems can have "headers" like an NA car. Typically, a turbo header is an exhaust manifold that is tubular, like Kooks, etc...and in this case, Hooker. That is technically a "turbo header"...its just different terminology.

310s are probably too small, depending on the specs of the turbo.

Its a risk man, a damn good price, but a risk. If you want to buy something done up already, it doesnt get much better than that at that price if the work is done right and its a clean title.

 

With a honda i wouldn't buy someone elses project. No telling how well it was built and how long it would last. That is just my opinion.

 

more info on the car ...
miles,clean title, year/model?

 

let me know, im in NJ and ill go check it out and test drive it for you :-P

if u dont want it let me know i know a friend that wants it

 

I'm a little skeptical, because 1)ls/vtecs have proven to be unreliable if not built correctly, 2)an unmodified B18C5(type R) head has red wrinkle paint from the factory, 3)a turbo on top of that ls/vtec knocks off a few more reliability points, and 4)you have to be careful when buying someone elses project car. I would find out who tuned it, or where he had it tuned, and ask them about his setup. I say for the price, if it is what he's advertising, not a bad deal at all, but if it's not, well...

 

i would never buy a ls vtec car, thats just me tho ide do the ls/vtec my self so i KNOW its done ligit

 

less reliability isn't something i'm TOO worried about.. i've got 6 other cars and have already gotten used to the mantra that any car with forced induction is probably going to be subject to additional stress with the added hp.
BUUUT.......

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if this is stuff that's generally known by everyone (minus me, of course, since i know next to nothing about acuras.. ), plus the potentially undersized injectors, it sounds like maybe i've made a good choice by coming here to ask about it first -- it's definitely info i wouldn't have had otherwise
too bad, it's a pretty nice looking car....

and if lsintegra95 or anyone else wants more info (what i posted originally is all i know about the car), some guy who lives in Orange, NJ is posting on vwvortex.com for a friend, so i assume the friend is in or near Orange as well... the integra owner's friend can be reached via email at wpusey@comcast.net

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emilie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">less reliability isn't something i'm TOO worried about.. i've got 6 other cars and have already gotten used to the mantra that any car with forced induction is probably going to be subject to additional stress with the added hp.
BUUUT.......

if this is stuff that's generally known by everyone (minus me, of course, since i know next to nothing about acuras.. ), plus the potentially undersized injectors, it sounds like maybe i've made a good choice by coming here to ask about it first -- it's definitely info i wouldn't have had otherwise
too bad, it's a pretty nice looking car....

and if lsintegra95 or anyone else wants more info (what i posted originally is all i know about the car), some guy who lives in Orange, NJ is posting on vwvortex.com for a friend, so i assume the friend is in or near Orange as well... the integra owner's friend can be reached via email at wpusey@comcast.net </TD></TR></TABLE>

get the vin and have someone on here car fax it for ya

 

Can someone please tell me what front lip, rear lip and those side skirts are?!? Really nice car.

 

type r head? is it just me or does that look painted??? looks like black underneath(GSR)???!

 

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Looks like Wings West lip and side skirts... not sure about the rear lip though

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSTEG96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">type r head? is it just me or does that look painted??? looks like black underneath(GSR)???!</TD></TR></TABLE>

it might be a type r head and gsr VALVE COVER!!

 

that top definately looks painted...unless it was resprayed. i wouldnt buy someone elses ls/vtec turbo setup, never know how its been drivin or how well it was built. 8500 is a pretty good price though, but unless you really know your hondas you might be asking for trouble

 

is that the wings west lip? I thought it might have been the tsunami, but hard to tell in that pic. I am also curious as to what rear lip that is??

 

I don't think buying someone elses project is a good idea. Your best bet would be finding a pretty much stock GSR and modding it yourself. That way you know each and every little thing that goes into your car, plus you'll learn a hell of a lot about Hondas/Acura's fixing it up yourself And the above people are right, LS/Vtecs can be a HUGE nightmare if they aren't built right. If you do a search about them on this board, youll see quite a few horror stories, but if built right they'll tear people new ********. That car does look Very clean though, but chances are the owner might have driven it hard, you never know, that motor coulda been through hell and back.

 

The front lip looks like a Tsunami, not sure on the rest....


Modified by quikB18B at 9:28 AM 1/20/2004

 

ehhhhh... i dont know about buying a used turbo vehicle. you can almost guarantee the past owner tore the **** out of the motor. i mean, come on, who builds up there car to take it easy on it.

i would find something more stock like, for cheaper, and do the turbo yourself. just my 2 cents.

 

FYI, looks like a WW Type W kit to me.

 

I would have to agree with everyone, unless you know who built the LS/VTEC or did it yourself that is a very big risk. LS/VTEC's are known to be a very unreliable motor, if not built right. There are many ways to Hack a LS/VTEC so be careful, check the normal stuff(compression test, ghetto wiring, etc.) I wouldnt buy someone elses project, especially one with such exstensive work done.
Do it yourself, it will pay off in the end 1: with knowing what your car is capable of and how it is built, and 2: You will have a much better time with the car if you build the motor, IMO!!!!
Good Luck
BTW it is a Wings west Kit on the Car.