if a D16Z6 drops into a EF no prob, h22 drops into a EG with a mount kit, why doesn't and H22 drop into an EF using a EG/H22 mount kit. I understand the whole hood clearance thing (easily fixed with GS-T bubble) but is there a firewall problem?And then what else? just a theory, haven't but much research or thought into the idea

 

i think the sides of the engine bay are smaller.

 

z6 doenst drop into just like that. You have to switch up the tranny, so you are using a different mount there...then the drivers side bracket for the mount is different...so doesnt work there.. SO basically you are off on that one bud

 

^^ he's right. the D16Z6 fits into the HF *only* because you're using the cable tranny, and the driver's side mount will be tilted at an angle..

 

It can be done with alot of custom fab. but if your going for 1/4 mile times then go ahead and blow alot of money to have it done but if you plan on having a car thats going to handle and still have a good amount of power and torge get a ITR, GSR or LS/V-tec.

 

why dont you go ahead and school us on why a h22/ef wont handle.

 

From what I heard from 2point2, the biggest issue is lining everything up correctly. If the H22 motor is too far forward/backward, or tilted at the wrong angle it's not going to work.

Apparently the H22 is barely heavier than a B18C5. In reality with an H22 swap, it's not going to handle as well as a D16Z6, but that doesn't mean it's going to be horrible.

 

why not just make custom mounts?

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=689795

check out this discussion i brought up a lil while back.

but the main point of why people dont drop h22's into crx's is cuz its almost impossible to get the axles str8 from what i understand from 2point2

 

As stated already it's the mounts...3 of the 4 mounting points are on the transmission. Since you're able to use the EF tranny with the z6, it works.

 

The mounts are different on the ED/EF and EG. Remember that when you drop in a Z6, you use a cable transmission and change the driver's sdie bracket. This is essentially the 'mount kit' that you use. So H22A bolt-in kits for the EG will not work in an ED/EF.

 

Best bet would be to fabricate solid mounts or adapt urethane eg/ek mounts. Don't spend time making the oem prelude mounts work cuz they'll be shot within a week or so. Lots of haters on the h22 swaps into any chassis (probably the same guys dropping too much cash on B swaps)
Don't think about h22 swap without prelude rate springs, struts, and PHATASS swaybars. Also, don't plan to go much lower than stock cuz you start screwing yourself on traction and axle angles, not to mention the oil pan hangs lower than the single cammer's.
If everyone wouldn't just restate **** they've read in other threads, there wouldn't be so many negative opinions on Hswaps.....ask the people who've actually done one. Then get a ride in one that's done correctly....Def. not for those with small bugets or no tech skills
In a Ef, main problem I'd expect is inyerference between the head and the dr. side strut tower.........tube chassis firewall forward!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22CivicS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best bet would be to fabricate solid mounts or adapt urethane eg/ek mounts. Don't spend time making the oem prelude mounts work cuz they'll be shot within a week or so. Lots of haters on the h22 swaps into any chassis (probably the same guys dropping too much cash on B swaps)
Don't think about h22 swap without prelude rate springs, struts, and PHATASS swaybars. Also, don't plan to go much lower than stock cuz you start screwing yourself on traction and axle angles, not to mention the oil pan hangs lower than the single cammer's.
If everyone wouldn't just restate **** they've read in other threads, there wouldn't be so many negative opinions on Hswaps.....ask the people who've actually done one. Then get a ride in one that's done correctly....Def. not for those with small bugets or no tech skills
In a Ef, main problem I'd expect is inyerference between the head and the dr. side strut tower.........tube chassis firewall forward! </TD></TR></TABLE>

You have some good points.. but my axles are STRAIT even with the car lowered. it all depends on how you design your mounts.

MrTodd: As far back as you can get it. This is for weight transfer - you want to keep the motor from 'leveraging' the front end. this is why i knotch my rear crossmember Brings engine back, axles get strait.

Also, i don't agree that the pitch (tilt) of the motor is going to be a big issue. mine is actually quite goofy - tilted forward. The engine thinks it's driving down hill all the time 8)

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K, Since sircrxracer has a digi cam now, i'm going to have some detailed pics of my setup and my new paintjob soon . I'm sure the pictures will answer quite a bit of questions so everyone just hold tight. You guys are really getting my spirits up with all this interest in the h22a/4g swap lately. Hopefully when more people do this swap the threads will be full facts instead of theories.