Has anyone or know of anyone that smogged a JDM Integra Type-R motor? Did it pass? Was a OBD 1 ECU used? If so which one? I'm thinking of getting rid of my built GSR motor and going with a USDM or JDM Type-r Motor.

 

you can make a jdm itr motor smog legal. all you have to do is have all the usdm smog stuff hooked up. if its going to be in a 95 thats pretty easy. if its obd2 then it gets a little hard. the jdm ecu doesnt have all the emission stuff as the usdm one. good luck!

 

make sure to use 100octane gas. it helps pevent detonation under load on the dyno

 

Smog stuff like what? The PVC valve, the breather chamber that the PVC valve hooks in to, and the EVAP control canister? Do you know if the JDM Type-R block has the hole on the back of the block to put the breather chamber on? I'm going to be putting it into a 94 GSR.

 

technically you need to convert your car into obd2, so you'll need alot of stuff:
gastank,lines,cat,2ndo2sensor,evap canister,evapl ines,purge control. you need to look at a 97 u.s. itr smog equipment,then you need to get all of them on your car. cause you'll need to use a u.s. ecu and it would only work properly witout check eng. light if you have all the smog equipment. . and you'll need to get your car refereed as a 97 acura integra type r
but most smog station does not know the differece between type r motor and a gsr motor so if you just drop the motor in smog it you might pass.

 

I thought the law stated if you have a car that came with ODB 1 you can swap in ODB1, but if it came with ODB2, you have to use odb2 and cannot use odb1..

 

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yes. but california emmisions state that you can only upgrade and you must use the same smog equipment used for that partucular motor ofered here in the u.s.
if you have a 94 integra ls(obd1) you could drop a 94 gsr motor use 94 gsr obd1 emissions, 97 integra ls (obd2) you could drop a 97 type r motor (obd2).use a 97 type r emissions(obd2) but you can't use a 94 gsr emissions (obd1) cause its a downgrade.
but in his case its a 95 integra (obd1) and he wants to put in an integra type r motor (obd2) so he would need obd2 emissions.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by esponet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure to use 100octane gas. it helps pevent detonation under load on the dyno</TD></TR></TABLE>Liar. lower the octane the cleaner the burn.

LOL... try passing with 100 octane.

 

I have an obd2a JDM swap and I passed with a USDM ECU. But I have all the obd2a smog stuff as well as the US sensors and such.

If anyone needs a US ITR ECU I have one for sale for cheap. Just email me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ByronC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Liar. lower the octane the cleaner the burn.

LOL... try passing with 100 octane. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hahahahaha..how did you figure this one out??????
the higher the octane the more it prevents detonation, which is measured in nox.
jdm itr motor are higher comp. than u.s. motor wich means it ismore prone to detonation. you use a 100 octane gas so you will not detonate.

and yes my car passes with a 100 octane gas and alot of my friends car also...

 

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hahahahaha..how did you figure this one out??????
the higher the octane the more it prevents detonation, which is measured in nox.
jdm itr motor are higher comp. than u.s. motor wich means it ismore prone to detonation. you use a 100 octane gas so you will not detonate.

and yes my car passes with a 100 octane gas and alot of my friends car also...

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your an idiot, you have no idea how smog works.

NOX is created when the exhaust gas temp's get too high. When you use 100 octane gas, you are just increasing exhaust gas temps. HOWEVER, with 100 octane gas, you will get a more complete burn, thus reducing hydrocarbons.

Also, if your cars are detonating when your not on 100 octane, your cars arnt running correctly.

Learn your ****.

It gets more complex, but this gets the point across so other people dont buy into your bs.

The main thing with passing smog is making sure the cat is working properly, IE its as hot as can be when smogging. A good tuneup will also help. The main thing is cat. If you fail HC's check your air filter to make sure its clean. If you fail Nox check to see if your egr is plugged or not working. If you dont have an egr, then check cat. An easy trick would be to put on a dirty airfilter to rich up the mixture to lower the exhaust gas temps. More fuel=cooler exhaust temps, but also will come more HC's at a certian point.

 

this argument is getting nowhere. you keep doing what your doing and i'll keep doing what i'm doing. but do feel free to check with the gas company about higher octane gas and what you could do to reduce nox.and NO higher octane gas don't increase combustion temp.




Modified by esponet at 6:10 AM 10/24/2003

 

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HOWEVER, with 100 octane gas, you will get a more complete burn, thus reducing hydrocarbons.

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Are you sure about that. The higher the octane the harder it is to ignite (preventing detonation), good thing if your detonating; but will cause an incomplete burn if you dont need it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by esponet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this argument is getting nowhere. you keep doing what your doing and i'll keep doing what i'm doing. but do feel free to check with the gas company about higher octane gas and what you could do to reduce nox.and NO higher octane gas don't increase combustion temp.
by the way MORONS type r motors don't have egr.
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i never said they did
I was just explaining why certain cars come with egr's.

do as u wish, ill do as i wish

just explaining nox and how it most commonly derives from high exhuast gas temp

 

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hahahahaha..how did you figure this one out??????
the higher the octane the more it prevents detonation, which is measured in nox.
jdm itr motor are higher comp. than u.s. motor wich means it ismore prone to detonation. you use a 100 octane gas so you will not detonate.

and yes my car passes with a 100 octane gas and alot of my friends car also...

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Just run 91 octane. If you pass on 100, then you will definately pass on 91.

 

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Just run 91 octane. If you pass on 100, then you will definately pass on 91.</TD></TR></TABLE>

my car failed on 91 nox too high, when i put 76 100 octane gas it passed, nox went down enough to just pass.

 

do you have stock compression or is it bumped up?

 

stock jdm 11.0:1.
but in summer, its when i need a smog check its about 100 degrees here