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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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SITUATION 93 civic cx with obd1 93 b18a motor, dizzy, ecu & 96 gsr trans

question1 i have a b&m regulator on the rail, sits on the right by the fuel return line. then on the left where the fuel line comes in there is this other regulator looking thing that has a phillips head screw on the top-what is that and what does it do?

the car throws no codes since swap(1 but i fixed it - ect in wrong plug). dizzy and coil and ignitor are good, so are wires. i cleaned the plugs on my bench since they flooded. then i individually checked spark to each plug and wire one by one-good spark. did compression tests and 150's across the board. so what the hell can the problem be? my buddy is a mechanic who helped with this and all my swaps, and we have been scratching our heads for like 2-3 nights. we were thinking of getting another rail like from a civic without that other regulator thing on the left and trying that? what do you think?

any help is appreciated-also, ask me questions if i was unclear in my explanation, i really gotta solve this. thanks guys
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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hehe, I was told by someone on here that flooding can't occur on these motors

Are the injectors stock? if so, listen to the fuel pump when you turn the car on before you turn the ignition over. Does the pump continue to prime forever? what's the fuel pressure? It should be somewhere in between 40-45psi
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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it's cranking at like 45 and yea the pump turns on just for a second or 2-i have a walbro 255
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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what size injectors?
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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stock injectors, walbro 255, aem fuel filter, b&m regulator
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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look for a vaccum leak on your fp reg. that was my solution and some iridium plugs
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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you mean the vacuum coming off the top? what does that have to do with too much fuel?? will check anyways.. thanks
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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i know how to fix your car :
too much fuel plus pack of matches = one fixed honda.........lol
we will have it goin tomorrow quit stressing
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 04:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fasterthanahonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know how to fix your car :
too much fuel plus pack of matches = one fixed honda.........lol
we will have it goin tomorrow quit stressing</TD></TR></TABLE>
shut yo mouth
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mycvc8u2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you mean the vacuum coming off the top? what does that have to do with too much fuel?? will check anyways.. thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>If the diaphragm in the fpr tears, fuel will leak into that vacuum hose & into the intake manifold. At the same time, the fpr will often close up giving too-high pressure in the rail.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the diaphragm in the fpr tears, fuel will leak into that vacuum hose & into the intake manifold. At the same time, the fpr will often close up giving too-high pressure in the rail.
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damn... i am getting a spare rail from a friend tonight.. hopefully that is it.. thanks jimblake
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the diaphragm in the fpr tears, fuel will leak into that vacuum hose & into the intake manifold. At the same time, the fpr will often close up giving too-high pressure in the rail.
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thats what I was thinking
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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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bump
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Old Oct 16, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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bump back
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 04:21 AM
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UPDATE
changed the fuel rail, reguator and injectors not once but twice last night. my buddy has massive amounts of ls swap parts and extras so he brought by some stuff. still same ****, turns but no start. going to try a different ecu later today. i still have fuel , good spark and compression, but no start?? any other ideas are appreciated at this time. thanks
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 04:51 AM
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I once had gas-fouled plugs after flooding the engine ('89 Saab). I fixed the flooding but it still wouldn't start. The plugs were pretty new, they looked nice & clean, so I was too stubborn to replace them. When I finally put NEW plugs in it started right up.

No guarantee, I'm just saying it happened to me once...
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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I once had gas-fouled plugs after flooding the engine ('89 Saab). I fixed the flooding but it still wouldn't start. The plugs were pretty new, they looked nice & clean, so I was too stubborn to replace them. When I finally put NEW plugs in it started right up.

No guarantee, I'm just saying it happened to me once...
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i've been cleaning them through and through like 7 times and nothing. guess new plugs are going in later!! keep you posted and thanks jimblake
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