Which ecu on a all motor gsr w/ skunk2 intake manifold
Im about to do a all motor gsr set up in my 92 hatch. Im going to use a skunk 2 itake manifold and hondata. Im not sure what ecu to run. I have seen ppl. using p28s in their GSRs, but if im using hondata can i stick with the p72? Also does it matter if the p72 is a jdm ecu? thanks
Since you don't have butterflys anymore, you could use a p28 w/ a chip or hondata, you could probably sell the GSR ECU to a prelude or hybrid guy and buy a cheaper p28 to use.
Thats what i want to do, but will i need to get it tuned rite away or can i drive on the sock p28 for a few day untill i get it tuned?
Yes, provided a competent hondata dealer gives you a decent base map. I got my Hondata from Rocket/Hondasaver and it ran fine with the base map.
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is there any point in getting a new ecu AND hondata? doesnt the hondata(s200) tune ignition, fuel and vtec anyway? i think im missing something...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any point in getting a new ecu AND hondata? doesnt the hondata(s200) tune ignition, fuel and vtec anyway? i think im missing something...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hondata only is available and works on OBD1 ECU's, so if you have an OBD2 ECU you need to get an OBD1 ECU and some kind of conversion harness. People say get a p28 because they are widely available and cheap. The only thing you don't get w/ the p28 over the p72 is the knock sensor and IAB control (which could be programmed on a p28)
Hondata only is available and works on OBD1 ECU's, so if you have an OBD2 ECU you need to get an OBD1 ECU and some kind of conversion harness. People say get a p28 because they are widely available and cheap. The only thing you don't get w/ the p28 over the p72 is the knock sensor and IAB control (which could be programmed on a p28)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wont a obd-2 to obd-1 harness be ok keeping my gsr ecu?</TD></TR></TABLE>
explain yourself more, i don't think you understand the differences between OBD1 and OBD2
explain yourself more, i don't think you understand the differences between OBD1 and OBD2
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bolivianstrtwpn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
explain yourself more, i don't think you understand the differences between OBD1 and OBD2</TD></TR></TABLE>
i understand the differences but heres what i wanna get cleared. switching my gsr ecu for a p28 will have better ingnition and timing tables for the manifold, correct?
hondata modifies fuel and timing tables, correct? so why would i bother getting a p28 if hondata will do the same/better job when i tune it?
i think im wrong somewhere so plese help me out
explain yourself more, i don't think you understand the differences between OBD1 and OBD2</TD></TR></TABLE>
i understand the differences but heres what i wanna get cleared. switching my gsr ecu for a p28 will have better ingnition and timing tables for the manifold, correct?
hondata modifies fuel and timing tables, correct? so why would i bother getting a p28 if hondata will do the same/better job when i tune it?
i think im wrong somewhere so plese help me out
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i understand the differences but heres what i wanna get cleared. switching my gsr ecu for a p28 will have better ingnition and timing tables for the manifold, correct?
hondata modifies fuel and timing tables, correct? so why would i bother getting a p28 if hondata will do the same/better job when i tune it?
i think im wrong somewhere so plese help me out</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you have an OBD2 car then you need an OBD1 ECU, getting a conversion harness isnt going to transform your OBD2 ECU to OBD1. Peole say get p28s because they are cheap and easy to find, you could do the same things on a p72 + have control of secondaries and a knock sensor if need be.
i understand the differences but heres what i wanna get cleared. switching my gsr ecu for a p28 will have better ingnition and timing tables for the manifold, correct?
hondata modifies fuel and timing tables, correct? so why would i bother getting a p28 if hondata will do the same/better job when i tune it?
i think im wrong somewhere so plese help me out</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you have an OBD2 car then you need an OBD1 ECU, getting a conversion harness isnt going to transform your OBD2 ECU to OBD1. Peole say get p28s because they are cheap and easy to find, you could do the same things on a p72 + have control of secondaries and a knock sensor if need be.
Just get a P28, have it chipped for hondata and have a hondata dealer put a basemap on it for you. Connect the hondata unit to the ecu....done deal. I just did the same thing to my B18C build up and was able to break the motor in just fine. Good Luck!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i understand the differences but heres what i wanna get cleared. switching my gsr ecu for a p28 will have better ingnition and timing tables for the manifold, correct?
hondata modifies fuel and timing tables, correct? so why would i bother getting a p28 if hondata will do the same/better job when i tune it?
i think im wrong somewhere so plese help me out</TD></TR></TABLE>
The point that you are missing is that you use the P28 and the Hondata. Hondata is not a stand alone system like Motec or AEM EMS. The Hondata hooks to the P28. It's like having a chipped P28 tuned to your specific setup, with the added benefits of datalogging, launch control, etc. These options cost extra, BTW.
i understand the differences but heres what i wanna get cleared. switching my gsr ecu for a p28 will have better ingnition and timing tables for the manifold, correct?
hondata modifies fuel and timing tables, correct? so why would i bother getting a p28 if hondata will do the same/better job when i tune it?
i think im wrong somewhere so plese help me out</TD></TR></TABLE>
The point that you are missing is that you use the P28 and the Hondata. Hondata is not a stand alone system like Motec or AEM EMS. The Hondata hooks to the P28. It's like having a chipped P28 tuned to your specific setup, with the added benefits of datalogging, launch control, etc. These options cost extra, BTW.
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