i have been running a set of tein ra's 14/10k for a year. they handle amazing but due to the two-way adjustability they are difficult to manage on choppy roads.

i recently picked up a set of zeal s6's 12/8k, which have 3-way adjustment. i understand they will be softer on the street due to the lower spring rates and increased shock travel, but how will they compare to the teins on a true roadrace or auto-x track?

i am hoping to get some opinions and experieces about performance potential before i decide to swap them. thanks

btw, the teins have pillowballs, the zeals do not.

 

I have ra's on my rs and i've never experienced anything that track oriented.

 

Contact El Pollo Diablo (Matt), If memory serves me correctly [best chairman Kaga voice] that he is running the S6's in the ECHC series. I'm sure he has quite a bit to share.

 

im pretty new to the suspension game...euclid can you explain what the 3 way adjustment is?? thanks.

 

i really wish people would clarify what type of adjustment is available on the suspension setups. Hell, Konis are "infinitely" adjustable (within a certain range, and rebound only....).

I assume he means that the adjustments are

- ride height
- spring preload
- damping (6 settings, rebound/compression adjusted together)

 

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I assume he means that the adjustments are

- ride height
- spring preload
- damping (6 settings, rebound/compression adjusted together)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh i see...this makes it much more clear. Thanks .RJ now back on to the topic...

How do you adjust the spring preload on the zeal?

 

basically when you have a 2-way adjustable coilover you have to adjust the preload in order to adjust the ride height... so if you lower the car 2 inches you are taking 2" out of the shock travel as well.

with a 3way you can lower the entire shock assembly into the base without adjusting the preload at all. so you can lower the car 2 inches but still get 100% shock travel.

both setups allow for damper adjustment... +/- shock hardness.

 

what i was trying to say is that "3-way" or "16-way" adjustment means different things to different manufacturers and different poeple... always best to clarify.

 

i have not put my S6's to race use.... yet. during driving events, i usually don't take an instructor along with me, but at the last one i did. he suggested i start racing... we'll see.

anyhow, what i am about to say IS subjective, the S6's perform very very well on the track. i kept the factory set preload on the S6's and just adjusted the height by lowering all four corners by about an inch and a half. i am currently running a 4f/5r dampening set up and potenza S03's. the car handles well on the track and has minimal pitch and roll. to me, the weight transfer is very easy to detect and is very easy to handle. the car understeers a lot less, and lift throttle oversteer still works as well as jumping on the throttle to point the car where you want it to go works too (better than stock). compared to stock (which i drove my bros stock R on the track with the same tires, same day, same tread life), the car puts a lot more rubber on the ground and the friction point is raised to a much higher level. of course, at stock level, you will always have head room to grow, but the S6's seem to raise the bar even further. take this info as you like, this is how i perceive them.

i am not familiar with the RA's...

 

thanks disorder

i do not have doubts that the s6 will be great coilovers on the track... i am just curious if anyone has experienced both.

a basic description of the ra's is this... you point, they go, no questions asked, very minimal body roll, and on a smooth road they are really amazing. but hit a bump/crack/hole and you will really feel it.

after driving around and thinking alot last night i feel that full supsension travel from the zeals will be a better asset on the street and track, i can always customize the swift springs later down the line if i am experiencing too much leaning.

i wanted to experiement with firmer rear rates also. thanks for the help

 

well, why dont u get a RE, then all the problem will be solved.

 

i should have bought them from the start but they were out of my budget at the time, i got the zeals slightly used btw.

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