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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 06:11 AM
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I'm helping an intern at work installing his Dropzone adjustable coilovers on his 'teg.

The length of the springs that came with it are less than half of the OEM springs. Now the car sits so low, it's hard to turn the wheels. This is with the perches set to the highest. What's with that?

Are the sleeves supposed to sit way at the bottom of the shock? I mean the sleeves are sitting on the flange where the OEM springs were sitting which is way on the bottom.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 06:27 AM
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Default Re: Another installing coilover sleeves question. (VWkila)

Are the flanges on the shock where the OEM springs sits on adjustable? Can I slide it upwards?
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Default Re: Another installing coilover sleeves question. (VWkila)

the Perches are not adjustable unless the shock body (aftermarket shock) allows for this.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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Default Re: Another installing coilover sleeves question. (VWkila)

Well, all I can say is he should have gotten something better than cheap@$$ Dropzone coilovers.

Maybe they sent the wrong springs with the sleeves.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Another installing coilover sleeves question. (PatrickGSR94)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, all I can say is he should have gotten something better than cheap@$$ Dropzone coilovers.

Maybe they sent the wrong springs with the sleeves.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but he's still in school and he can't(like most of us) affoed to spend big bucks on his car.

I've called Dropzone and they swear they've sent the correct part.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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Default Re: Another installing coilover sleeves question. (VWkila)

i hae seen those same coilovers springs be too long too and not even really drop the car much at all . same **** with maxspeed and that other crap . you get what you pay for . i understadna budget, but when you run into these probs it ends up costing more.
get talller sleeves, one of the dirt track racer places over here sells them , i dunno about your area though.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 09:27 AM
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You installed them correctly, I think, based on your description.

But are you forgetting to install the aftermarket collars that you adjust? The aftermarket coilover spring will indeed be very small/short. That's why the threaded section of the sleeve sits on the stock perch where the OEM spring sits. Then you thread the collars up and down. The aftermarket coil spring will now rest on the collars.

With the collars adjusted all the way up, the car should basically be sitting at stock height. Depending on the brand of coilovers you get, it could be higher than stock, or lower than stock on it's highest setting. On the lowest setting, they can go sometimes up to 4 inches lower. And if you don't have those collars installed, the aftermarket coil will sit on the stock shock lower perch. In that case, the car will be like freakin 6 inches lower than stock or something crazy like that.

I wish I could take a pic for you, but I left my camera at my friend's house.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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in all honesty, tell him to trash those and get some decent H&R springs. They're under $150 (atleast the ones I sell are) and won't crap out over time.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shamoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You installed them correctly, I think, based on your description.

But are you forgetting to install the aftermarket collars that you adjust? The aftermarket coilover spring will indeed be very small/short. That's why the threaded section of the sleeve sits on the stock perch where the OEM spring sits. Then you thread the collars up and down. The aftermarket coil spring will now rest on the collars.

With the collars adjusted all the way up, the car should basically be sitting at stock height. Depending on the brand of coilovers you get, it could be higher than stock, or lower than stock on it's highest setting. On the lowest setting, they can go sometimes up to 4 inches lower. And if you don't have those collars installed, the aftermarket coil will sit on the stock shock lower perch. In that case, the car will be like freakin 6 inches lower than stock or something crazy like that.

I wish I could take a pic for you, but I left my camera at my friend's house.</TD></TR></TABLE> So, He needs to purchase aftermarket collars? This sucks real bad.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tweakmeister &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in all honesty, tell him to trash those and get some decent H&R springs. They're under $150 (atleast the ones I sell are) and won't crap out over time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He might actually do this. I have the H&R sport springs and Koni yellows on my EG.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VWkila &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

He might actually do this. I have the H&R sport springs and Koni yellows on my EG. </TD></TR></TABLE>

don't do it on a teg, H&R Sport is too soft, and they dropped my car 3". Yes it is the sport spring, yes it is the correct part number for my car, and no they did not sag. It has been around a 3" drop ever since I first installed them over a year ago.
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Old Jul 2, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VWkila &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> So, He needs to purchase aftermarket collars? This sucks real bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They should have come with them. That's basically what a coilover kit is. You get the spring, the threaded sleeve, and the locking collars.
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