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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Default Auto to 5 speed swap completed!! Do's and Don'ts! 56K go do an oil change and come back ....... seri

Parts List:
5 speed tranmission
clutch (pressure plate, disc)
shift linkage
manual ECU - more about this later
manual starter
flywheel
clutch master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic lines
pedal assembly
tach - either a mounted one or a new cluster, helps with the downshifting
shifter
shift ****
shift boot
miscallaneous nuts and bolts!!

*Warnings*
A manual ECU - without one you will have "check engine light" - code 70 - auto tranny has a bunch of sensors that the manual tranny doesn't have.

A Junkyard nearby!! - You will need tons more nuts and bolts, and other misc. bullshit that complicates things.

Key can only be taken out in "Park" - You will have to "rewire" the wire arrangement underneath the automatic shifting console to trick the sensors into thinking that the car is in Park.

exhaust & shift linkage - I had to have my o2 sensor relocated underneath my vehicle. The shift linkage now knocks against the o2 sensor, will have to get it relocated soon.

Hole where auto shifter used to be - When you do the swap, you'll have to cut a large piece of metal from underneath the car. When you insert the shifter into the car it will not completely cover the hole. So you'll have to deal with hearing the car, and feeling the air & heat come rushing up into the car while you're driving. Just take it to a muffler/exhuast shop and have a piece of metal welded to it so you don't have to deal with it. I'll be doing that when I get the o2 relocated.

Tranny mounts & brackets - The rear auto tranny bracket can be reused with the manual tranny. The transmission I used came with a front bracket, so it was all good from there.

If you have any questions, you can PM or email me.


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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:52 PM
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Not to mention

If you don't live in a house, stop by Sears and get a 100 ft. extension cord for about $10.

Forgot to give a shout-out to the neighborhood kids that ask "is that a sports car?" about 5 times every hour.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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Good work bro

Now it's time to change your sig
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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that dime that you found should go towards new interior pieces!! you have not ruined them ...and those floor mats but good job on going manual
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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i hate the floor mats, but I can't find any blue plain looking floor mats to match the interior had to go with "NOS"
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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Good job man.

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Damn right.

Mine are getting up there and i'm a fuggin idiot...
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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good job on the switch. try looking for those stainless steel floormats w/blue inserts. that would be cool.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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Wow that interior is gross.

Nice job on the swap.
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look at Soup ****
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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Good swap! But those JVC radios suck. I have to send more of those crap *** units to service then almost anything else.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Hehe...
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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Hey, hey! Don't diss the radio. Never, EVER skips one me!!! I've had it for a year AND it doesn't skip!!! What else can I ask for?? It's not that flashy at all, so people won't be bashing my window to steal, IF I leave the removable face plate in the car! JVC =

AND driving through downtown Atlanta occasionally with a lowered vehicle is USUALLY not CD Player friendly.

Edit: Does my interior look that bad?? Wherever I go I usually get compliments, and questions
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Im am going to be doing the same thing

How much did eveything run u, u should of just swaped a 5 speed B Series or H Series, Fucken D16y7 is a weak engine, even boosted they are slow
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that dime that you found should go towards new interior pieces!! you have not ruined them ...and those floor mats but good job on going manual</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree about the floormats, my buddy and I are about to do that as well. Where did you get the shift plate?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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do you got an integra type r, also? the radio pic...
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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Good job, I bet one of the hardest parts of the hole swap was getting the new pedals in and getting all the nuts on and off. I did the conversion on my crx to.
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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Do you have more pics of the clutch install? From what I can tell you drop your auto tranny, put a shifter through the hole and glue on a clutch pedal =P Congrats on that dime!
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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Good work...

I dont like the interior either.
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Good job on the swap.

That interior is just wrong.
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 05:58 AM
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which wires did you rewire to trick the sensor..
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 06:57 AM
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so many questions and so much flaming

i'll try to deal with you all in sequence

i didn't worry about the tranny so much b/c i'll be doing a swap soon, probably a b16a2 , i would do GSR but it seems like they're way OVERPRICED!!! $750 - $900 more for 10 hp & 8 lbs of tq. still debating, i'm so indecisive

the radio pics are from my car, and not_so_civic, he did most of the labor

the pedals are the hardest, which is why that job was saved until the end

okay, skip down past the interior comments, ah! another question

basically just move the sensors up and down the "sensor cluster that's underneath the auto console. move the sensor to the park position and just tape it up so you don't fu*k with it later, that way the car will be in "park"
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 06:58 AM
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would you like to do my car? I will pay you.....

Good job on the auto-manual swap. Big props to you bro!
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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can you use 92-95 pedals on a 96-00?
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Key can only be taken out in "Park" - You will have to "rewire" the wire arrangement underneath the automatic shifting console to trick the sensors into thinking that the car is in Park. </TD></TR></TABLE>

HOw Did you rewire yours, mine is still there and one time it slide out of park and my key wouldnt come out and car wouldnt start.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Hole where auto shifter used to be - When you do the swap, you'll have to cut a large piece of metal from underneath the car. When you insert the shifter into the car it will not completely cover the hole. So you'll have to deal with hearing the car, and feeling the air & heat come rushing up into the car while you're driving. Just take it to a muffler/exhuast shop and have a piece of metal welded to it so you don't have to deal with it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The guy that did mine just glued a sheet of aluminum across the whole and put the shifter through.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tranny mounts & brackets - The rear auto tranny bracket can be reused with the manual tranny. The transmission I used came with a front bracket, so it was all good from there.
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How did you do the passenger side mounting? I bought a special mount for the swap. Did you Reweld and bracket?
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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I just slid the sensor and taped it down. I suppose if wiring was involved contact not_so_civic

As far the passenger side, you will/did need another bracket/mount. I, currently only have the rear and front on my tranny

i need something to cover this hole!!
i was thinking of having a piece of metal welded to it



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