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Here's The Champion Labs response:

"Wal-Mart has requested we consolidate some part numbers in the Super Tech filter line. In doing so, the ST2808 will now be labeled as ST3593A.

The ST3593A is fitted with an anti-drainback valve as well as a by-pass valve; as was the ST2808. The SuperTech filter line meets or exceeds all original equipment requirements for fit and function.

If you require additional assistance, please feel free to contact our
Filter Hotline at 800-882-0890.

Thank you.

Dale Hayes
Technical Assistance
Representative"

My e-mail to them:
I like supporting a real manufacturer right here in my own state of Illinois. For this reason, I buy Walmart's Supertech brand oil filters because you make them.

However, I recently heard that there might be problems with the ST2808 filter for my Honda Odyssey (Alabama built, mind you). Is there any truth to this? Should I get this filter out of my van NOW?

I read this on an internet forum. So far I consider it hearsay and would like to hear from you if the product is OK for continued use. The WalMart store personnel were completely in the dark, but I did notice that there was no longer even a sticker on the shelf for ST2808 filters anymore.

Please reassure me!

(These guys responded in less than 10 hours!)

 

Ahhh just use Honda OEM oil filters

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ill phil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ahhh just use Honda OEM oil filters </TD></TR></TABLE>
noooooo they are fram pos's...use a champion labs filter........like this one, stp, bosch or mobile 1, they are all the same filter just different labels and different prices......honda oem works for a lot of people but i wouldn't put a fram on my car....i would go with this walmat filter or the stp----$2.99

 

Since when are Honda OEM - Fram filters?

 

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News to me too. Any proof of this?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ill phil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since when are Honda OEM - Fram filters?</TD></TR></TABLE>

there's only a few makers of filters. and fram produces the filters for honda usa. only the origial filter on your car(if it was built in japan) is non fram.

its like kleenex. they make tissues for everyone, but there not labeled kleenex.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

there's only a few makers of filters. and fram produces the filters for honda usa. only the origial filter on your car(if it was built in japan) is non fram.

its like kleenex. they make tissues for everyone, but there not labeled kleenex.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Last time I looked at the Honda Filter, it was made by some Canadian Company called Filtech Corporation.

 

honda uses like 3 different filters. there a canadian, usa and japan built filters. the us's are fram.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honda uses like 3 different filters. there a canadian, usa and japan built filters. the us's are fram.</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, the Canadian filter is made by fram, the USA filter is from filtech. It seems that the USA filter is starting to phase out of the dealers. Now all they have is the Fram

 

That is correct:

Made in USA = Filtech
Made in Canada = Fram for Honda OEM filters

I went to AutoZone yesterday where I normally buy my STP filter, and I decided to do a quick compare of the STP, Bosch, and Mobil1 filters for my car.

From what I could see visually on the outside and inside the filters, the STP and Bosch were EXACTLY the same, except STP was $3 and Bosch was $5.50. The Bosch filter said "Filtech technology" on it, I don't know if this is any relation to the Filtech company that makes Honda USA OEM filters or not.

The Mobil1 filter looked mostly the same as the other two, but it had an immediately visible anti-drainback valve inside (large spring right there when you look inside the filter). Of course it also cost $12.