Wet Vs. Dry Nitrous.
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Ok, Here is the deal, i have 3 people who i like to call my friends telling me a dry setup is WAY safer than a wet setup and does less damage to ANY motor. Please tell them they are dead wrong. Here were my main points in argument:
*wet setup, is cleaner, and you will be able to use more nitrous more effeciently
*wet setup is better because you are shooting the exact same amounts into each cyl, causing a more equal balance of nitrous throughout each cyl.
*wet setup, is cleaner, and you will be able to use more nitrous more effeciently
*wet setup is better because you are shooting the exact same amounts into each cyl, causing a more equal balance of nitrous throughout each cyl.
I thought Wet system is shooting nitrous with fuel, and Dry system is shooting solely nitrous hence dry ( no fuel) and let Electronic tells the injectors how much more fuel to add to compensate for the added nitrous.
I think you are talking about single fogger before the throttle body vs. Direct port in each runner.
I think you are talking about single fogger before the throttle body vs. Direct port in each runner.
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Yea that's direct port Chris. Wet is when you spray nitrous and fuel from the same spot, instead of just nitrous. I wouldn't know about the argument, never played around with nitrous. But I would say that wet is much safer since you have the ability to bring in much more fuel instead of just relying on stock injectors and more pressure. ****, builtb16 here ran a 100 shot wet, from his airbox and ran 12's. There's no way in hell you can run a 100 shot with a dry set up (except maybe with hondata's new nitrous control). Direct port is obviously the best way, but more $$$.
Yea that's direct port Chris. Wet is when you spray nitrous and fuel from the same spot, instead of just nitrous. I wouldn't know about the argument, never played around with nitrous. But I would say that wet is much safer since you have the ability to bring in much more fuel instead of just relying on stock injectors and more pressure. ****, builtb16 here ran a 100 shot wet, from his airbox and ran 12's. There's no way in hell you can run a 100 shot with a dry set up (except maybe with hondata's new nitrous control). Direct port is obviously the best way, but more $$$.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sporkcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But I would say that wet is much safer since you have the ability to bring in much more fuel instead of just relying on stock injectors and more pressure. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That's why you buy bigger injectors, then you don't need the extra pressure.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sporkcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> There's no way in hell you can run a 100 shot with a dry set up (except maybe with hondata's new nitrous control). Direct port is obviously the best way, but more $$$. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Check signature. I will be using a dry single fogger. Even though I will be using Hondata's nitrous control, it is possible without it.
That's why you buy bigger injectors, then you don't need the extra pressure.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sporkcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> There's no way in hell you can run a 100 shot with a dry set up (except maybe with hondata's new nitrous control). Direct port is obviously the best way, but more $$$. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Check signature. I will be using a dry single fogger. Even though I will be using Hondata's nitrous control, it is possible without it.
True, but then wouldn't n/a driving be running too rich? Of course having hondata would solve all of that. Good thing I thought of it and threw it into my post. I dodged getting owned
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sporkcrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True, but then wouldn't n/a driving be running too rich? Of course having hondata would solve all of that. Good thing I thought of it and threw it into my post. I dodged getting owned
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Yes, not having Hondata would result in running rich N/A, that is why I want to have one, my car is daily driven, so it can't be running rich all the time. The Hondata will give me the ability to tune the fuel in through the injectors and retard timing only when the system is armed, and also set nitrous activation rpms, speed, and cut off rpm.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, not having Hondata would result in running rich N/A, that is why I want to have one, my car is daily driven, so it can't be running rich all the time. The Hondata will give me the ability to tune the fuel in through the injectors and retard timing only when the system is armed, and also set nitrous activation rpms, speed, and cut off rpm.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True, but then wouldn't n/a driving be running too rich?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You could just run bigger injectors then lower your base fuel pressure.
That would make you run fine N/A and would give you a lot more headroom to raise pressure with the dry kit. Especially with a good high pressure capable fuel pump like a Walbro 255hp.
You could just run bigger injectors then lower your base fuel pressure.
That would make you run fine N/A and would give you a lot more headroom to raise pressure with the dry kit. Especially with a good high pressure capable fuel pump like a Walbro 255hp.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AresB16A2Turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't really read most of the post, but I read over that link, ignore it it sucked.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What link sucked?
Modified by RyanCivic2000 at 2:14 PM 6/8/2003
What link sucked?
Modified by RyanCivic2000 at 2:14 PM 6/8/2003
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AresB16A2Turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A wet system is always safer than a dry system as I understand it.
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Please explain.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Please explain.
Instead of releying on a stock fuel pump and increased fuel pressure through stock injectors, which I mean come on, is typically how a lot of people run their dry systems doesn't sound very safe to me. Running an additional fuel supply that is injected with the nitrous to make it run at a safer A/F mixture so you don't run lean sounds a lot safer to me. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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What link sucked?
Modified by RyanCivic2000 at 2:14 PM 6/8/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
This link. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=425150
What link sucked?
Modified by RyanCivic2000 at 2:14 PM 6/8/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
This link. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=425150
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97hb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Please explain. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yes please explain cause N.O.S themselves even say a dry setup is safer.
Now if your gonna spray more than 75shot then yeah you need to use a wet setup..but if 75 is as high as your going then dry setup is gonna be the safest
Please explain. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yes please explain cause N.O.S themselves even say a dry setup is safer.
Now if your gonna spray more than 75shot then yeah you need to use a wet setup..but if 75 is as high as your going then dry setup is gonna be the safest
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AresB16A2Turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock fuel pump and increased fuel pressure through stock injectors, which I mean come on, is typically how a lot of people run their dry systems doesn't sound very safe to me. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Very true, I wouldn't run any nitrous kit without a fuel pump
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Very true, I wouldn't run any nitrous kit without a fuel pump
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AresB16A2Turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Instead of releying on a stock fuel pump and increased fuel pressure through stock injectors, which I mean come on, is typically how a lot of people run their dry systems doesn't sound very safe to me. Running an additional fuel supply that is injected with the nitrous to make it run at a safer A/F mixture so you don't run lean sounds a lot safer to me. Someone correct me if I am wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stock fuel pump on a wet setup isn't a great idea either, it has to pump more fuel either way. So really all you need to upgrade over a wet system is injectors, and I would rather rely on a good set of injectors to atomize fuel than a stupid NOS fogger and solenoid that could lock up. You have to worry about more with a wet setup: injectors going bad, fuel solenoid locking up, and fuel pump. With a dry system you elimanate one more mechanical part: the solenoid. Less mechanical parts means less likely to fail. If your injectors are sized properly and tuned through something similar to Hondata's nitrous control a large shot of dry nitrous can be easily achieved. Hondata's nitrous control allows you to enrich the fuel through the injectors and retard timing only when the nitrous system is activated. It allows for good performance N/A and having a tuned nitrous system on big injectors. With the bigger injectors and a dry system, increasing fuel pressure is nothing to worry about anymore.
Stock fuel pump on a wet setup isn't a great idea either, it has to pump more fuel either way. So really all you need to upgrade over a wet system is injectors, and I would rather rely on a good set of injectors to atomize fuel than a stupid NOS fogger and solenoid that could lock up. You have to worry about more with a wet setup: injectors going bad, fuel solenoid locking up, and fuel pump. With a dry system you elimanate one more mechanical part: the solenoid. Less mechanical parts means less likely to fail. If your injectors are sized properly and tuned through something similar to Hondata's nitrous control a large shot of dry nitrous can be easily achieved. Hondata's nitrous control allows you to enrich the fuel through the injectors and retard timing only when the nitrous system is activated. It allows for good performance N/A and having a tuned nitrous system on big injectors. With the bigger injectors and a dry system, increasing fuel pressure is nothing to worry about anymore.
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