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Old May 21, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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I have a 92 accord with 68k on it. My car would start then immediately die. This would go on about 15 times until the car finally would start. It seems to happen more often when the car has been sitting for awhile. A coworker told me he had the same problem in his 95 and it ended up being the distributor. Well in a rush i went to the dealership to buy a distributor, rotor, cap and got raped for $325. I replaced everything last night and this morning it started fine but today when i went home the same problem. The alternator and starter has already been replaced and the battery voltage is fine. please help!

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Old May 21, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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How do you jumper the ECU to put it in diagnostic mode for a 92 accord? Where is the diagnostic port located at?

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Old May 21, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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if you look on the passenger side under the dash just before where the door hinge is, there should be a small panel that snaps in and the edge of it rests under the kick panels on the edge of the door...pull that panel off and look for a small 2 pin light blue plug. jumper those 2 pins together and the ECU will flash whatever codes you have stored...also my 90 ECU had a LED on the structure of it that flashed the codes so i didn't have to jumper that plug...check your ECU
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Old May 21, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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I have the same problem with my 92... people on H-T told me its the Main Relay...
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Old May 21, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Hey Spankey!

Did replacing your main relay fix your problem? I don't mind spending the money as long as the car runs fine. Dude i have to admit it feels like i got screwed hard with no vaseline for replacing the distributor and that not be the fix.

Meanwhile i noticed oil on my distributor for my honda that has 208,000 miles on it. This time i am only going to change the o-ring

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Old May 21, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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thanks brawl... so does the check engine light flash and u just count the flashes?

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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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yea basically, long flash's will be the first digit
if theres a second digit like a code 13 or something there will be short flashes after the long ones...
i gotta check my **** also cuz i've had my check engine light come on a couple times...most recently right after changing my oil and heading up to my friends cottage ( had a good 160km/hour average) so i was going quiet fast...and the light came on gotta c wats wrong
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Old May 21, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Yup, it's very likely it's the main relay.

$80 bucks CDN for the part around here, it's a ripoff but at least I don't worry about my car not starting anymore.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 04:27 AM
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http://www.hondaautomotivepart...RELAY

stimpy or anyone can you please point out the part that needs to be replaced. There are so many relays and none of them are $80 bucks.

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Old May 22, 2003 | 04:56 AM
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could also be a fuel pump going bad
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Old May 22, 2003 | 05:36 AM
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i doubt it is the fuel pump since the car only has 68000 miles on it.

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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Can someone please describe where the main relay is? is it under the hood in the fuse box? is it in the car by the driver side kick panel?

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Old May 22, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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It's located under the dash... You have to be a contortionist to do this....

Tools needed:
- Ratchet wrench w/ an extension attachment
- 10 mm socket
- Beer (chicks optional)

Directions:
- Remove the panel located just directly under the steering column (under the dash) and remove the four bolts connected to the metal panel. (this is to see underneath better)

- If you look closely, there should be a metal box (that's the tranny ecu)- right behind that is the main relay. Remove the bolts that holding down the tranny ecu and some kind of plastic attachment (5 bolts in all). Careful not to pull the ecu too hard when moving it aside...

- From here, you should have access to the main relay... Simply bring down carefully and unplug the old relay... Plug in the new one... Hint: I sprayed an electrical cleaner in the female- side of the plug to clean it out before I plugged in the new relay...

- Before putting everything back in reverse order, start the car to ensure that the relay is plugged in and working...

- When you're sure that it's working- turn car off (Doh!) and put everything back in reverse order... Always double- check your work...

- pat yourself on the back and have a beer...


Hope this helps....

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Old May 22, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Jay!

Thanks for the write up. can you take a look at the link that i posted and tell me which part am in need of ordering?

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Old May 22, 2003 | 11:34 AM
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Hey I think its part #28 here:

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...RELAY

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Old May 22, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Yeah... It's part #28... Main Relay (RZ-0088)...

Search the 'net for better prices now that you know which part to get....

Good luck....

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Old May 22, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Thanks EVERYONE for your INPUT!

i picked up the stuff locally for $65 bucks but i needed it bad. i'll have it done tonight and maybe even take pics if i get a chance.

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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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You're probably already done, but if not, this page is great as well to illustrate the procedure:

http://autorepair.about.com/li...1.htm
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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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Thanks everyone! Yeah i wished that tech article was there earlier but thanks to Maui for posting the directions! Now i hope that was the problem. $400 this week in repairs already and thank god i did all the labor.

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Old May 23, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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now if i could figure out why the brake lamp light comes on every once in awhile meanwhile none of the lights are burnt

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