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Old May 14, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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Well i finally got my turbo dropped in. A couple problems tho. THere was an oil leak around my oil pan and I think it is the gasket. It was very hard to get that gaske lined up putting in back in so I'm pretty sure its the problem. I will go buy a new one from ACURA and get someone else to put it on..... ANyway there are 2 other problems that are disturbing me. THere is smoke/exhaust coming from teh turbo manifol area... Dont know which it is. Do you think that it is something to do with the gasket or does smoke naturally come off of it. I think there may be some radiator fluid or possibly some oil, but not a lot..... Another problem is that i dont think I am getting any boost.... I have a t3/t4 OE Garret and I rev up to 4400 and the boost gauge shows no boost.... Is this normal, does it take longer to spool up? I believe its .68ar. THank you...
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Old May 14, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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I had the same problem around the oilpan, just take it off and clean it well, gasket and oilpan surface and block. inspect the gasket and make sure you need a new one, you may. But clean surfaces are key.

smoke off the manifold is normal for a little bit b/c of the oil on your hands or any fluids that may have been spilt on it while install, watch it and make sure it goes away.

You SHOULD be getting boost by then, check your charge pipes and also make sure the boost gauge is working correctly, if thats ok check the map sensor and vacuum lines etc.

make sure you are getting around 17-22 in. of vacuum at idle, if not the boost gauge is not working correctly. if you are see above for suggestions.
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Old May 14, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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i am monitoring from a VAFC, I think there is a vacuum part. What should it read and will it tell me my boost?
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Old May 14, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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17-22 in of vacuum and yes it should show boost

get a manual boost gauge just to make sure
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Old May 14, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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its the manual gauge that isnt showing boost, next time ill look on the VAFC to see what its saying.... Do you think I could drive like 10 miles with a leaking gasket to get it fixed?

I was thinking about doing it myself but I might have a problem doing it. Do I apply gasket onto car and then slide the pan onto it? I tried putting it on pan, but it doesnt stay... thank you by the way
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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the pan can be a bitch the 1st fw times, just \gotta play with it, i think your better off putting it no the studs of the blok and thne pulling the pan up , make sure you dont pinch the gasket though.


and rememeber 10 ft lbs of tq is all it takes for the oil pan .
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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easier to put the gasket on the pan then to the block
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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Why not apply a very thin layer of Hondabond on the pan and then put the gasket on (helps to keep it from moving).
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the pan can be a bitch the 1st fw times, just \gotta play with it, i think your better off putting it no the studs of the blok and thne pulling the pan up , make sure you dont pinch the gasket though.

and rememeber 10 ft lbs of tq is all it takes for the oil pan . </TD></TR></TABLE>

Opps, I just did 13ft-lbs.
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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I use german torque specs...guden tite
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Old May 15, 2003 | 02:44 AM
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the where can you get that stuff? Hondabond. HOnda dealership? I put some silicone on it to keep it from moving but it didnt work. I didnt spread it evenly and put some in a single line. Ended up just pulling it off and putting it on the block and sliding pan over it. I am assuming that its the reason why its leaking. So I dont know whether I want to use any other bonds.


Modified by BlackB18CTeg at 12:04 PM 5/15/2003
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Old May 15, 2003 | 02:55 AM
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by the way, the boost gauge doesnt show vacuum, its just shows boost. Starts at 0.... Ill use VAFC to ssee
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Old May 15, 2003 | 03:55 AM
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BTW- not to say you are stupid, but you do realize the turbo will not produce boost unless the engine is under load. You are driving the car to check for boost, not just revving the eingine, right?

This is a very common newbie mistake.

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Old May 15, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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good one gaz never even thought he might be doing that, assumed people knew
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Old May 21, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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Im in the same Boat as well. My Boos guage is reading around 20 of vaccum. All goo dthere. But when i check drive it. No Boost. it actually went from 20 vaccum to 0 boost once or twice thats it. Nothing else. Check all the pipes and those were good too. Could it be the Tial Wastegate or something. I have the side port of WG going ot side port of Turbo so all good there. Hmmm WTF can it be. Also my HKS SSBOV is Fluttering as u can so. I feel it may be Compression surge or whatever. It just doesnt sound right. I adjust back n forth and same thing every time. When i drive i can hear the trubo spool up. Sometimes i can feel the power but not as i thought it would be. As for the boost guage how long does it usually read boost for. Only for those couple split second in each gear or what. I know NOOB question . My bad
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Old May 21, 2003 | 07:53 AM
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my oil pan gasket didn't leak.

here's what i did:
get new gasket... clean the hell out of the old one... and i mean CLEAN it reallly well. Make sure all gooey sealants (hondabond etc) that caked onto the old oil pan are off. Get silicone sealant in a tube, apply a 4-6mm line all the way around (appx size, just so its occupies about 1/2 the size of that little ledge, but in the middle). Then put the gasket on that silicon, don't smoosh it around any but smooth it gently and clean up any gush that's on the inside of the oil pan. Then put another equal size amount of silicone on the top of the gasket. Then put it on the motor (don't push too hard, chances are when you hold the pan on while looking for bolts, you'll be pushing it up there pretty hard). Then just torque everything down to 7-10 ft/lbs

hope that helps

Smoke is normal as the seals to the turbo are breaking in and like someone else said, the oil on your hands, the grease etc will burn off the manifold.

get a manual boost gauge and T it into the FPR line or the sensor that's bolted to the back of the manifold (but use the line that goes from the manifold to the sensor, not from the sensor to the charcoal box).

then make sure you're driving or else you wont produce any boost. any more questions, just PM me

-ryan
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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGAZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW- not to say you are stupid, but you do realize the turbo will not produce boost unless the engine is under load. You are driving the car to check for boost, not just revving the engine, right?

This is a very common newbie mistake.

Randy</TD></TR></TABLE>

My car isn't turbo yet so I'm not speaking from experience but i would swear that i have heard a blow off valve when a car is in neutral and just reeving the engine. This would imply that some sort of pressure is being created right? so it should so up on the boost gauge right? I could be wrong but I would like to hear some feed back theory on this one. thanks
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Old May 21, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTgringo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My car isn't turbo yet so I'm not speaking from experience but i would swear that i have heard a blow off valve when a car is in neutral and just reeving the engine. This would imply that some sort of pressure is being created right? so it should so up on the boost gauge right? I could be wrong but I would like to hear some feed back theory on this one. thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

my bov will blow off in neutral, but its VERY VERY quiet... its about .001 psi being blown off.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 06:17 AM
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yeah, you hear that **** in movies, but it doesnt mean its happening..... Preciate all the help, got a new gasket, bitch is still leaking Putting that **** on was a big pain, bout to just pay someone to do it....
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Old May 22, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Well I finally got everythign working for the most part. But I have one question. When I am taking it up to Vtec, it sounds much "airyer" if you know what I am saying. Vtec sounds different. Is this normal?


also there is smoke coming off of my intake manifold is this normal. Temperature and everything reads normal.... Thanks!!
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