motor is totally stock except for the usual i/h/e and some aem cam gears. will i be alright if i just slap on a b16a2 head?

or

should i sell my b18b1 and get this 95 gsr motor with b16a2 head?

 

You cannot simply "slap on" a b16 head to a b18b. LS vtec conversion has to be done correctly or else your motor will not last long.

I say just get a complete gsr motor.

 

yeah, the guy that would put the head on my motor has done ls/vtec before, so he knows what to do.

 

get the gsr

 

I would say screw the GSR too many people have them...but then again the ls/vtec thing has become very trendy...do whatevers easier dude....swapping motors is not easy, and its kinda time cosuming...you can do a vtec conversion for the head and slap it on the block in a couple hours work...i say do that

 

i would get the ls vtec and screw the gsr because of the cost. if u get the gsr your going to end up spending 2 grand more. and that is not worth it. u might as well put the 2 grand in the ls vtec and be much faster. geting a gsr is not cost efficient.
i would never get a gsr or a type r because it cost to damn much and is not worth the money. u can turbo your ls for the same price of a gsr and the turbo ls be kill the gsr

 

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2 grand more? someone ripped you off in the past.


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keep dreaming. I would kick my own *** if my turbo gsr got killed by an ls with the same setup.

 

Regardless, if he still swaps the head. It's still going to be a turd.

To do the conversion correctly, you have to run totally different internals. I.E B16A pistons, GSR Rods, B16A crank.

You dont want to run a VTEC engine with the low 9.1 : 1 compression ratio that the B18B motor runs. There wont be any gain.

 

i would go ls/vtec if the guy knows what he is doing. ls/vtec has to be done properly, if not, you can have some serious problems. Another option is turbo if you want to go fast. ls has low compression which is good for turbo.

 

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Another myth. 10:1 stock gsr compression works better with turbo. Lowered compression is for people who are lazy to tune, or running a VAFC hack. Properly tuned, 10:1 is optimal. Faster spool, more low end torque, more power with less boost, lower intake charge temps ect.

Lowered compression is for people who want to run more timing to make up for the loss in power. id rather not run more timing.

I had an 84mm ls vtec turbo, 9:1 before. Now im going with a full gsr, 10:1 compression with 83mm.

LS/Vtec is close to the same price as a gsr. You have to PROPERLY tap the head, weld some little passage thingy, buy special machined dowels, worry about 1 more oil feed line to the head and tap that off the oil pressure sending unit ect ect.

Lsvtec wont make that much more power than just a gsr. a little more torque. also dont plan on reving to high with the lsvtec or something gonna break. ls bottom end is not designed for that kinda stuff. the angle of the stroke cannot hang with top rpms, and that is not worth the little extra bit of displacement from the longer stroke.

so again i say screw the ls/vtec, stay with the gsr motor, and if you going turbo, keep stock 10:1 compression.

 

dont let people rag on th lsvtec, where i live people a killer lsvtec set-up, gsr, type R killers. before people start to flam, DUH a gsr and type r will be fast built, i was just talking about stock, cuz i dont think the lsvtec is going to be stock, most are built right from the start

 

im not ragging. but when people say ls vtec is 2 grand cheaper than a gsr swap and say an ls turbo will kill a gsr, you need to knock a little sense into the misinformed/ignorant.

 

okay heres the deal:

i have a jrsc for my ls motor, i put it on and liked it for the short time i had it on. i have it sold now cause i want more power.

i have a 98 b18b1 with 35,xxx miles on it that i have sold for a good price. i'm losing a little money from the price i paid, but you can't always get back what you paid for the things when you got them

with my jrsc kit sold and my ls motor sold, i would be able to get the gsr motor installed in my eg hatch without having to pull out any money from my pocket. i will not be doing any of the labor work for the motor swaps, that will all be done by the guy i'm getting the motor from.

now, my question is: how will a gsr block run with a b16a2 head? i think there's going to be a b16 tranny on it as well, not to sure yet. what would this set up be like? this guy said it should be a little faster than a stock gsr because something like the b16 head flows better than the gsr head, but i don't know. what do you guys think of this set up?

any opinions are welcomed to help me decide on what to do.

or should i just spray some NOS in my ls?

 

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just be carefull you dont blow the welds on the intake manifold lol

 

just thinking of doing a 55 shot