*OPINION* Replacing T-Belt with motor out??

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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 12:18 AM
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OK before I was going to put my motor in I was going to do a bunch of maintence things just to get them out of the way and to make life easier while the motor was still out. My question is about the timing belt how would i go about doing it with the motor out?? I have heard that its a real PITA!! What do you guys think and any suggestions on how to make sure that it goes smoothly??
*EDIT* OK timing belt isnt that hard I am talking about the crank pulley??!!! How to get it off and such ideas please!!
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 02:23 AM
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Default Re: *OPINION* Replacing T-Belt with motor out?? (Vinceg99)

Well the old really big screw driver holding the flywheel trick seems to be popular.

However I tried almost every concievable way to change mine before the motor went in, and well long story short my new timing belt is in my storage room.

Hopefully I can get it on the car soon though.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 02:50 AM
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i saw a pic somewhere where the person took a piece of flatbar and screwed it into the flywheel and one of the tranny mounting screw holes in the block. it kept the flywheel from turning.

also, an air compressor OWNZ.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 03:25 AM
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i recently did this .. i have a ls in a hactch so not a lot of room to work but it wasent that hard. the only hard part was gettin the damn nut off the pulley.. i tired everything for almost 3 days then my freind busted out with this tool made by snape on .. the tool is shaped like a hexagon like the inside of the pulley and it has a hold in the middle and then it has a bar that comes down with a 1/2 drive opening. so you put a breaker bar on it and put it in the pulley then brace the breaker bar against the ground and .. booom .. nut comes right off .. its really cool tool. the rest is really easy. i tried everything but not even air would get it off. so if you in the same boat i was dont forget that tool.


Modified by NitrousDreamz at 12:07 PM 4/25/2003
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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Default Re: *OPINION* Replacing T-Belt with motor out?? (Vinceg99)

with the motor out changina a T belt isnt all that hard....
just remove all spark plugs so u dont get compression.... u basically align all the marks on the cam gears...... take crank pulley off..... if no air compresso r its available u going to have to hold the flywheel somehow... a screwdriver alway sdoes thew work if done the right way..... after the pulley its off... align the crank gear with the mark on block... after thats done... make sure all the marks on head are good to go and put the belt on with the tightest side on the left side and some slackj on the R so the tentioner gives the strenght in it...
after belt its on , make sure that u put the Tbelt washer of the pulley its on or ur T belt will move out when u turn car on....and after tightening the pulley.... rotate the engine 2 times coutnerclockwise to give it some tention... and re adjust the tentioner.. is actually easier for me with engine out....
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by breaka_1_9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i saw a pic somewhere where the person took a piece of flatbar and screwed it into the flywheel and one of the tranny mounting screw holes in the block. it kept the flywheel from turning.

also, an air compressor OWNZ. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats not a bad idea so basically your attaching the flywheel to the block correct?? The only problem that I see with that is getting out one of the flywheel bolts as for a compressor thats one thing I dont have so I have to do it the old fashion way with a beaker bar.
OK so if I use a screwdriver or like to hold the flywheel where exactly do I put the screwdriver so that it doesnt move? Is there a place to wedge it in or something?
Thanks for all the help so far!!
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Default Re: *OPINION* Replacing T-Belt with motor out?? (Vinceg99)

the easiest way for me to do it was to take off tranny, get a flat metal bar and put it over/under the dolly ??? spelling??? and over/under the pins on the flywheel, have someoen hold it in place, then bam, breaker bar on the pulley and your done
good luck and if your going to try to screwdriver be careful, i did that and busted the screwdriver
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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I just did this two weekends ago. I was putting my flywheel on so you're always supposed to use new bolts. So I went to Honda and got new flywheel bolts ($30). With the engine on an engine stand and with the flywheel off I put 4 of the OLD flywheel bolts in, loose, leaving about half and inch or so. I used a long pry bar, slid it inbetween the bolts and finger tightened them holding the bar in place. A friend of mine held the pry bar while I broke the crank pulley nut. I ended up having to use the handle for the floor jack as a breaker extension but after a couple quick snaps it let go.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vinceg99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thats not a bad idea so basically your attaching the flywheel to the block correct?? The only problem that I see with that is getting out one of the flywheel bolts
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take the pressure plat off and use one of those bolt holes.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Default Re: *OPINION* Replacing T-Belt with motor out?? (breaka_1_9)

125PSI + Chicago Pnumatics Impact Gun, I think you need a 19mm socket too.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Default Re: *OPINION* Replacing T-Belt with motor out?? (beta13)

Only way I could get mine off w/ the motor out of the car is w/ an impact gun. A really, really big one.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 03:26 PM
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Default Re: *OPINION* Replacing T-Belt with motor out?? (sporkcrx)

you can use the L shaped metal piece that holds the intake manifold up, bolt it to the block and then bolt it to the flywheel, this will hold the flywheel in place while you are working on the crank pulley, take a ****** huge pry bar (or a piece of piping i prefer exhaust piping) and then just start kickin the **** out of it until it comes loose!
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Since I had a cherry picker sittin right there.. I put the motor in my mom's van and hauled it off to a tire shop that does basic oil changes and ****.. they got the crank bolt off in 2secs for free.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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ok i did this last week and it was hell for me and my dad. we havea heavy duty half inch impact but it didnt do it so i read in the book and it said use a breaker bar . so i did along with a two foot pipe on the end of the breaker bar to get more leverage, i held the flywheel with a really big strong flat screw driver and my dad put most of his body weight on the bar, and it came out like nothing. good luck
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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The flat metal with 2 holes is the hot trick, you are locking the crank to the block basically, then get a breaker bar and use some pipe for more leveratge, did it twice less then a month ago.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks for all the replies!! I will let you know how it goes since I will hopefully will be doing it this weekend
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