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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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Can some one please help me here. I am all done with my swap; 97 GSR in A 95 RS but the butterflies won't kick in. i have the red wire underneath the car hooked up to the A17 on the ECU and the black wire to the ground is there anything I am doing wrong?
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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anyone please
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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look for a pink/blue wire that is on the driver's side harness, if you find that, a wire goes from there to A17, I am pretty sure. I have never done it by running wires from the unit and not the harness. I know that the pink/blue should work and not even need a ground, but someone else might want to edit this
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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What ECU are you using? OBD I or II?
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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if you are running a obd1 ecu, just swap out the a17 and a20 pins at the plug. just switch them.
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Yes I am running an OBD1 ECU. and are you sure I have to swich A17 to A20 and A20 to A17. By the way I don't have to give it a 12V power do I?
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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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please help
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaitegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes I am running an OBD1 ECU. and are you sure I have to swich A17 to A20 and A20 to A17. By the way I don't have to give it a 12V power do I?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes I am sure. don't ask for help if you aren't gonna listen.
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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BCRUZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes I am sure. don't ask for help if you aren't gonna listen.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigblockEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look for a pink/blue wire that is on the driver's side harness, if you find that, a wire goes from there to A17, I am pretty sure. I have never done it by running wires from the unit and not the harness. I know that the pink/blue should work and not even need a ground, but someone else might want to edit this</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is what I did. Ran the one wire from the shock tower back to A17.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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How do you know if your secondaries are opening or not? Would it trigger a CEL if it's not working?
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sivik2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you know if your secondaries are opening or not? Would it trigger a CEL if it's not working?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not sure about the cel issue but by looking at the IAB aka secondaires(under the intake manifold, when you rev the engine to about 5500 rpm you should see the IAB rotate meaning it works or not rotating it's not working hence it will tell you if it's working or not.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BCRUZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes I am sure. don't ask for help if you aren't gonna listen.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah... he should just listen to the first piece of advice given, eh ? Everyone on the net is right...lol

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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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I did all that; and then all of the sudden I had a problem with my check engine light. It came on and the car doesn't rev past 3500. So Some one told me it's the distributer since it's OBD2 and my ECU is OBD1
any suggestions please
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaitegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can some one please help me here. I am all done with my swap; 97 GSR in A 95 RS but the butterflies won't kick in. i have the red wire underneath the car hooked up to the A17 on the ECU and the black wire to the ground is there anything I am doing wrong?
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I just swapped a JDM B18C into my 2000 Civic Si... You need to run one wire directly to the P72 ecu... pin A17. I can't remember the color right now. The other wire needs a 12v connection.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 06:58 AM
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you did something to put your ECU into limp mode...

what exactly did you change??
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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what is a limp mode and is it fixable?
what I did was I unpluged the injectors and I tried starting the car. I didnt remember that they were still disconected.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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remove the negative side on your battery for 10 seconds and then reconnect it. start your car. voila!
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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I have done that
I have disconnected the ECU and......
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sivik2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would it trigger a CEL if it's not working?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no it won't
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Old May 11, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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I ran a wire directly to the ecu from the secondaries harness and it still wont work. Just out of boredom i hooked the wire to the vtec wire and ran it for a while, it worked great until i got a cel for vtec sel. voltage owell, i sould like to fix this soon.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by likaciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I ran a wire directly to the ecu from the secondaries harness and it still wont work. Just out of boredom i hooked the wire to the vtec wire and ran it for a while, it worked great until i got a cel for vtec sel. voltage owell, i sould like to fix this soon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

One wire goes to the ecu, and the other goes to a 12 volt connection. When you connect it to the 12 volt connection it will remain open. Personally I don't know if this is good or bad.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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All that is just too complicated. Just take out the center butterfly piece, and buy shorter bolts and it will eliminate your entire problem. Mine works just fine. Just my .02
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Old May 13, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Imadreamer1226 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All that is just too complicated. Just take out the center butterfly piece, and buy shorter bolts and it will eliminate your entire problem. Mine works just fine. Just my .02</TD></TR></TABLE>

So basically you made your car slower.... great advice

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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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So I made my car slower. Do explain yourself. Not being sarcastic at all, but I didnt think it would at all hurt the performance. Let me know.
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