piece of my block cracked off. need help. long story
hi guys. ok, heres my story. my spring break gave me and my buddy a time to do my custom turbo install on my 2000 gsr. well, basically he handled the oil lines and when he was installing the oil feed line, it tightened it too much. the oil feed line connects to a fitting, which screws into the block itself. since he over-tightened it, a little hairline crack developed but i didnt notice it until i started my car and oil started leaking from that area. when i unscrewed the fitting, a piece of my block cracked off. for more details, PLEASE read this thread.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=457609&page=1
well, anyways, right now, my car is still at the shop. the mechanic called me today and gave me a few options. option 1 was for him to just buy a new block from acura ($2800) and just swap the thing in. and charge $1500 for labor. plus taxes and small parts, it will add up to $5000. now thats just ****** way too much.
so option #2, get a rebuilt block OR a used engine and just swap that in. well, a gsr block or engine isnt exactly cheap nor warrantied so that will be a risk. the engine or block can run anywhere between $500-1000 i assume depending on condition. add $1500 labor and thats still close to $3000 after taxes and misc items.
so option #3 seems the most realistic PRICE wise. and its basically using weld filler and fill in the area that had cracked off and then re-thread the hole and plug another fitting back in. on that link to my original thread, on the 2nd page, "J.Davis" posted a picture of his block that has been chipped off yet he used a welder to weld on aluminum filler onto the block to shape it. now my question is REALISTICALLY, is this thing sturdy and long-lasting if done right?
i am really clueless when it comes to welding. my mechanic is against welding on the block at all. he said it can be done, but he isnt gonna guarantee the work if i go that route. so basically, i am not sure if i still have the part that chipped off. if not, do u guys suggest i just weld that hole shut and just use the GE adapter kit for a new opening? or what do u guys think? let me know, need to have a decision by Monday. thanks
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=457609&page=1
well, anyways, right now, my car is still at the shop. the mechanic called me today and gave me a few options. option 1 was for him to just buy a new block from acura ($2800) and just swap the thing in. and charge $1500 for labor. plus taxes and small parts, it will add up to $5000. now thats just ****** way too much.
so option #2, get a rebuilt block OR a used engine and just swap that in. well, a gsr block or engine isnt exactly cheap nor warrantied so that will be a risk. the engine or block can run anywhere between $500-1000 i assume depending on condition. add $1500 labor and thats still close to $3000 after taxes and misc items.
so option #3 seems the most realistic PRICE wise. and its basically using weld filler and fill in the area that had cracked off and then re-thread the hole and plug another fitting back in. on that link to my original thread, on the 2nd page, "J.Davis" posted a picture of his block that has been chipped off yet he used a welder to weld on aluminum filler onto the block to shape it. now my question is REALISTICALLY, is this thing sturdy and long-lasting if done right?
i am really clueless when it comes to welding. my mechanic is against welding on the block at all. he said it can be done, but he isnt gonna guarantee the work if i go that route. so basically, i am not sure if i still have the part that chipped off. if not, do u guys suggest i just weld that hole shut and just use the GE adapter kit for a new opening? or what do u guys think? let me know, need to have a decision by Monday. thanks
If you do have it welded make sure you ask around for reccomendations. At my work we use the same welder every time and he specializes in aluminum. He can make it look like there was never anything broken to begin with. It CAN be as strong as the original block if it is done RIGHT. Try to call a few shops or your local performance shop and see if they reccomend anyone to do aluminum welding repair.
any welding shop SHOULD be able to do aluminum if they can weld at all, but call around first..
let us know how it goes!
mike
let us know how it goes!
mike
I had a type r block crack at the same point . And mine did it just from overtightening a factory oil pressure switch with to much teflon tape. Jb weld is your freind. the guy who has it now just layered it up and retapped it. He's got over 20000 miles on it now with no problems.
And the prices you gave in the other thread 2800 for a new block
. I can get you a brand new type r shortblock assembled for 2200.00.
Also if the jb trick dont work or it scares you, just retap it to a much bigger size and put a really big allen plug in it and close that hole up completely. theres plenty other wars to get oil for the turbo.
[Modified by Tbone, 11:26 AM 4/6/2003]
And the prices you gave in the other thread 2800 for a new block
. I can get you a brand new type r shortblock assembled for 2200.00.Also if the jb trick dont work or it scares you, just retap it to a much bigger size and put a really big allen plug in it and close that hole up completely. theres plenty other wars to get oil for the turbo.
[Modified by Tbone, 11:26 AM 4/6/2003]
You mihg teven consider pulling it apart and taking it to a welding shop and get them to TIG weld that back.. damn.. my welding guy would charge me at most $50 to weld something like that back together. Even with all the time and labour wasted.. sure beats $2800.
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