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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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Default sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring?

which would you rather do and why?


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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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which would you rather do and why?
what size bore are you running ?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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I would step deck if the sleever recomends it. I would ring around 20 psi
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (TREVER)

As the bore becomes larger it becomes harder to fit an o-ring properly. Although we still use an o-ring, I'm leaning more toward a step deck.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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whats a step deck?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (J2turbo21)

whats a step deck?
What is o-ringing and step decking?
What are the stock sleeves?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (J2turbo21)

It's like the stair master except it cost $250 more.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (BVM)

Well i know what o-ringing is but not step decking.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (J2turbo21)

Step decking is when the cylinder is raised higher than the deck of the block. They do this to have a tigher seal wih the head gasket and block.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (Arturbo)

So which seals better...or is it just a matter of what the bore will accommodate? What's the maximum bore you can have and still have room for O-rings? Can you do both, or will that make the deck to tall?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (Arturbo)

Thanks art for the info.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (J2turbo21)

I wsas thinking abotu O-ringing it, but I would hate to kep on replacing teh rings when the head is off. The head gasket is enough already.

But anyways, it's a stock bore h22
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (1320development)

My GE 84.5mm is stepped decked. I will see how the headgasket holds up.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (1320development)

I was also considering the step deck also. I had trouble with the last set of o-rings that were installed so now my block is torn down. I think step decking will lower the compression a bit also. correct?? if so how much do you estimate it will lower it??
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (InfamousRS)

According to Golden eagle, the last i heard, the maximum bore for o-ring would be 83mm on b-series.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (TurboD16Z6)

someone correct me if i'm wrong, but if you're gonig step deck, you'd want to use a cometic head gasket, that is o-ringed...and if you're o-ringing the block you want to use a stock head gasket?
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (TurboD16Z6)

I dont beleive thats correct since I just had 2 blocks I sent and they said 84mm b16 is fine w/ an o-ring.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (MotorMatrix.com)

I dont beleive thats correct since I just had 2 blocks I sent and they said 84mm b16 is fine w/ an o-ring.
Are we all in agreement on this. I'm going to do it soon!?
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:21 AM
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I guess things have changed. When GE sleeved my block back in september, i told them i was running 84mm bore and they told me anything above 83mm has no room for oring. That's exactly what Ted told me when i called him. Is it just me or is GE giving alot of different information? I also saw another post here somewhere about golden eagle not recommeding the cometic heagasket but back then when they didn't have there factory bored out gaskets, GE was recommending cometic headgasekt all the way. Paul
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (TurboD16Z6)

I went step deck.. RS Motorworks is big on step-deck design and lots of the pro racers use them
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (TurboD16Z6)

I guess things have changed. When GE sleeved my block back in september, i told them i was running 84mm bore and they told me anything above 83mm has no room for oring. That's exactly what Ted told me when i called him. Is it just me or is GE giving alot of different information? I also saw another post here somewhere about golden eagle not recommeding the cometic heagasket but back then when they didn't have there factory bored out gaskets, GE was recommending cometic headgasekt all the way. Paul
That's my big complaint. Too much self serving.
I've heard enough bad about the HP Cometics to say do not use them for any set-up. The MLS Cometics work great. I like the GE laser cut stock gaskets also.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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Default Re: sleeves..would you step deck or O-ring? (1320development)

Golden eagle automatically step decks, you have to request the o-ring. So they install an o-ring on top of the step deck. I just confirmed this talking to them this afternoon. I am sending out a gsr block to get sleeved and bored to 86mm for an all motor project, so i just went with the step deck.
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