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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 05:25 AM
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How much no2 can a stock ls handle with out any problems and run constantly?
Is it better to run wot activated or by the push of the button?
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 05:56 AM
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better for WOT , and what do you mean constantly?
if you go zex kit you cna prob sqeese 75-80 shot stock .
on nos dry kit 60shot tops before leaning out.
dont even go for aa wet kit unless you got fuel mods to handle the induction of fuel in the mix.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 06:07 AM
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Zex uses a DRY setup, meaning all that is injected is nitrous, no fuel.

Nitrous + No Fuel = Blown motor.

Nitrous Express makes the best kit on the market right now. The solenoids are absolutely humungous, making for great flow.

YOU NEED A WET KIT! As far as having 'fuel mods to handle the induction of the fuel in the mix', WTF are you talking about? A fuel pump? Injectors? Fuel Pressure Regulator? You don't need any of that to spray a little shot of gas. You don't need a single 'fuel mod' to run a wet shot.

I wouldn't suggest running anything higher than a 75 shot on a stock motor. If, however, you didn't mind spending the 120 bucks for a blockguard, and the 400 bucks for tuning, you could spray a 125 shot.

Whatever shot you spray, your going to need new spark plugs. I would recommend the NGK V-Power plugs. I've been running them for a while now, and they are great. Your also going to need a strong clutch, FAST. One bottle on just a 35 shot will completely fry your clutch. Clutch Masters Stage 2 should do you just fine.

Happy Spraying.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 06:15 AM
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They have told you all the right info... by the way i live less than 2 miles from you. If you need any help. Hit me up.........817-528-8231 Antwaine. Stick with zex. It's the safest for imports.

55 0 degrees retard...
65 2 degrees retard...
75 4 degrees retard...

I would not advise going higher. Even though people say you can. You sound like you want to keep you engine. Hit me up i can help you. I almost forgot, I have a buy-in with zex so i can get you the product if you like.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 06:21 AM
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yea ok newbie , like i havent been spraying my tpe R for 2.35 years now .
i have had every set up on the market no lie , , ask around.
dry kits do not blow motors if they are kept conservaticve, NOS for soem reason any over 60 shot they tend to lean out. . . well at least on my kits they did .
the zex can seem to handle more for a dry shot for some reason with their little purple box.
as far as wet, they say you can put em on fully stock motors, but i wouldnt . a stock fuel pump wont hold up long with not only supplying the injectors with fuel but then you have a 3or 4an line coming off the rail to supply that much for fuel for nitrous. if your goona stay stock go zex, its less headaches. if you wanna go wet, get NX or NOS . but i would suggest getting at least a fuel pump and fpr, just to be safe, thne you dont have to worry about your old stock one crapping out on you.

Trust me man I have a prtty damn good idea of what im talking about.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 06:23 AM
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Default Re: Nitrous on stock ls (NX_LS)

Zex uses a DRY setup, meaning all that is injected is nitrous, no fuel.

Nitrous + No Fuel = Blown motor.

Nitrous Express makes the best kit on the market right now. The solenoids are absolutely humungous, making for great flow.

YOU NEED A WET KIT! As far as having 'fuel mods to handle the induction of the fuel in the mix', WTF are you talking about? A fuel pump? Injectors? Fuel Pressure Regulator? You don't need any of that to spray a little shot of gas. You don't need a single 'fuel mod' to run a wet shot.

I wouldn't suggest running anything higher than a 75 shot on a stock motor. If, however, you didn't mind spending the 120 bucks for a blockguard, and the 400 bucks for tuning, you could spray a 125 shot.

Whatever shot you spray, your going to need new spark plugs. I would recommend the NGK V-Power plugs. I've been running them for a while now, and they are great. Your also going to need a strong clutch, FAST. One bottle on just a 35 shot will completely fry your clutch. Clutch Masters Stage 2 should do you just fine.

Happy Spraying.
Sorry to say your incorrect about your info on zex.

They don't add feul but thruogh the NMU.....(Nitrous management Unit).. it adjust the amount of nitrous given to the engine by a vaccum to the fuel pressure regulator. This ensures the right amount of nitrous is being given to the engine. Also Zex does make a wet system. It was introduced to the public this year. They have been testing this set up for a year now. Call 1-888-817-1008 ask for Joey he will tell you the info and assure you safety and confedience in their product.

Dammit i wish i read all of your post NX_LS becuase you don't know what the hell your talking about.


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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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The reason Zex can handle more of a dry shot is because you never get a solid flow of nitrous. It's constantly being adjusted through that little 'purple box'. What good is it to be spraying nitrous, but to not know how much??? How does that help you at the track?

The fuel pump on the LS is plenty big to support a 75 shot. With anything bigger than that, you would need a bigger pump, but if you don't have a blockguard, or any kind of engine management, a 75 shot should be the highest you run.

If you get a wet kit, you don't need a FPR, because the fuel solenoid injects the fuel for you. You don't have to worry about going lean all of the time. If your really nervous, get an EGT guage.

Zex may be plug and play, but like I said, you can never really be sure how much nitrous your REALLY spraying. I wouldn't recommend the NOS kit either. I've seen tons of problems with there solenoids. I've also seen those fuel problems cleared up when they switched to NX solenoids.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 06:53 AM
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please stick to dry if you want your motor!
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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alright dude. . . . . ok to the guy who asked the question wit the Ls. follow his directions , it will work , but your guess is as good as mine as to how long. . . for lower shots the fuel pump will work , but its chancy ,e sp on an older car.
do as you wish , but i can tell you the probs i had with mine .
BTW i ran 100 shot plenty of times on my ITR with no block gaurd. . .
your gonna realize with the more fuel mods you have it makes tuning alot easier,
i never had any problems with my fuel when i had my car done . i had a wlabro 255 lph hig press, aem fpr, aem rail , vafc , msd dig 6 with all the other msd goodies. my **** ran fine and was very safe and pulled some sick *** times with it .

with nitrous , tuning and common sense is key for safety
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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The reason Zex can handle more of a dry shot is because you never get a solid flow of nitrous. It's constantly being adjusted through that little 'purple box'. What good is it to be spraying nitrous, but to not know how much??? How does that help you at the track?
Dude what are you talking about. You know exactly how much nitrous you get. There is a fuel pill and a nitrous pill and you know exactly how much you get. The way you talk i don't think you have even had the zex. Before i got it i was always getting humiliated at the track. When i got it i beat tons of cars and was actually halfway respected. It helped me alot. And all the friends that i sold the kit to.

Zex may be plug and play, but like I said, you can never really be sure how much nitrous your REALLY spraying. I wouldn't recommend the NOS kit either. I've seen tons of problems with there solenoids. I've also seen those fuel problems cleared up when they switched to NX solenoids.
Do your research before you give it.


[Modified by HybridcivicLS-T, 10:13 AM 1/24/2003]


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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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i ran a 100 shot for about a month b4 i backed down to a 50 shot. The only thing that i had probles was the clutch. I added a FPR, fuel rail, colder plugs and changed the timing. ran fine. i only ran it 15 seconds at a time.

this was a on a 91 LS teg stock motor.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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Thanks synergy i forgot to mention that. You only want to run nitrous 15 sec at a time. And leave it alone on the freeway. As far as 15 seconds. I would do that anyway at WOT on anything
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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well 15 sec if your that slow . i only needed to use mine for about 10-11 sec at the track totally different beast though.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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I thought that 'purple box' in the Zex kit was to lower the nitrous shot if things started to get lean? In that case, you might not always be getting the shot you think you are.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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no sorry your wrong. That's why it's good to find out before giving advice.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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alright dude. . . . . ok to the guy who asked the question wit the Ls. follow his directions , it will work , but your guess is as good as mine as to how long. . . for lower shots the fuel pump will work , but its chancy ,e sp on an older car.
do as you wish , but i can tell you the probs i had with mine .
BTW i ran 100 shot plenty of times on my ITR with no block gaurd. . .
your gonna realize with the more fuel mods you have it makes tuning alot easier,
i never had any problems with my fuel when i had my car done . i had a wlabro 255 lph hig press, aem fpr, aem rail , vafc , msd dig 6 with all the other msd goodies. my **** ran fine and was very safe and pulled some sick *** times with it .

with nitrous , tuning and common sense is key for safety
LS guy, listen to itr206! I learned the hard way by melting a valve and then melting a piston. I have an older LS (see sig) and I didn't take the fuel precautions he did. I ran a 75 shot a couple of times and then boooom! If I could go back, I would've followed that advice. Good luck!

BTW I had a the Nitrous Works wet kit. The motor handled it fine, it's just that one cylinder leaned out. The other cylinders were fine after many blasts of n20. I think a 75 shot is fine, with the proper precautions.



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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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I forgot to mention that It is a NOS dry kit. I'm getting a really sweet deal on in thats is why I asked. If I would have mentioned that maybe all the dry vs. wet might not be going on. Hey Antwaine, you drive that silver Civic 2 door w/ dark silver stripes with carbon tails?

Also the kit is 75 to 150 shot and I was gonna run with 75.


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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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first of all everything quality N2O kit will have a WOT switch in addition to the inside arming switch (whether the inside arming switch is a constant contact or momentary contact, but i don't know why anyone would use the "steering wheel pushbutton" unless it was ON/OFF.

ZEX is ok and uses the TPS signal to know when to inject, but you still have to arm the system from inside. no system is "automatic", the first switch still needs to be activated before the WOT switch can be used etc.

i personally don't like dry kits at all. i would only use a wet/DP style kit. a 255LPH pump, colder plugs and enough ignition retard is pretty much needed even with a 70-80 shot. if staying at 75 or less you can get away with just the plugs and 2 degrees retard as long as your fuel pump is still good. if going with DP and using 100+ shot then definantly go with the 255 pump, stronger ignition system, and 4-8 degrees of retard depending on your injection size.

cam gear adjustments help too. a bit of advance on the EX. cam is good.

NX makes great kits for wet and DP, but the NOS are good also.

as for a stock LS i would stay in the 55-75 range using a wet system.
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 06:30 AM
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what are ur goals? why are ya spraying?
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ok now , do ya think a dry shot will get u to ur goals? i think that should be your concern now...running whatever system you have efficiently. if you insist on running the dry shot, youll be fine like mentioned above, if you decide to run any sort of wet...heed the advice for mentioned..fuel pump! a lott of ppl have had good an bad experiences w/ their setups, learn from the ones that are still around! if it was my car, id go get a pump, fpr , ignition, and convert your dry to direct port...but most ppl arent like me..jesus loves me.
even if u decide to stay dry, please get a 255 intank pump
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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yeah its me, who are you? If you need any help give me a call. its 817 528 8231
Thanks I have experience with n2o...so let me know if i can help
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