can you twin turbo charge a prelude 01 h22?

 

havn't heard it been done...but here is the answer of all these questions.....Anything is possible but is that much money in a car worth it....forget the h22a tt go for a 2JZ swap


[Modified by KW93LUDE, 8:12 PM 1/18/2003]

 

i have a friend that calims he saw one one time..... he just happend to be at a local gas station near the interstate and some guy passed through and stopped there to fill up. well he popped his hood to check the oil, and my friend SWEARS he had 2 turbos. i personally don't believe him, i think he just took a look at the compressor and turbine on the turbo, since there are 2 housings, i think he assumed that it was TT. but, with all the new fuel management available now, it would be possible

EDIT: it would probably be easier and more effecinet to run a sequential turbo instead of a true TT..(you know, a small turbo that spools up fast, but looses it's effect at about 3000-3500 RPMS, then a big turbo that takes more time to spool up, like about where your small turbo gives out, but is better for top end)


[Modified by Boosted97Lude, 3:43 PM 1/18/2003]

 

TTs are better for bigger displacement motors or "V" motors (6 or 8 cylinder). Either a small turbo for the low end then a bigger output compressor for the top-end on the engine for the first scenario. Or one small/medium turbo on each cylinder bank feeding 3 or 4+ cylinders.

This is mainly to reduce lag and get the best of both worlds: excellent spool and top end.

 

very true Luke, but in theory, it *could* work on an H22, i mean, comparitively speaking to other Hondas, it is a big displacement engine

 

Didn't Apexi build a H22A with twin-turbos? Look in older magazines to find out more info. Maybe if someone here remembers.

 

It wouldnt be worth the money. I know you could do it. You can do anything to a car nowadays as long as you got the money to do it. Meguiars turbo and super charged a Integra Type R. Its not worth it cause you can get really good gains out of one big turbo, why waste the time on two small turboes. On supras and skylines its better to take off the two little turboes and put a big t88 in it. Way more HP.
Peace

 

better for top end but you have to think of its purpose though....like in jdm land..they prefer that coz they use it for road race..which helps in acceleration...less lag as you would say...basically it all depends on the application...

 

I could go on a rampage here about compressor maps, volumetric flow, rotational inertia, cost issues, fitment issues, lag + traction problems, and a whole lot of other ****, but i think ill post this link instead:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=358838

This is a complete waste of money, unless your name is bob norwood (http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0202tur_extremeedge) and you have a 4000hp integra. Time and time again, 4 cylinders more specifically , youll put down more power every single time with 1 turbo instead of 2. Im sure youve heard of many supra owners doing the twin to single turbo conversion, right? If not, click http://www.titanmotorsports.com/900160mph.html The proof is in the pudding, twin turbo's on a honda is more for show then go. end of story.

 

anthony u never could talk for more than 5 seconds..... jk.. twins a waste man..

 

i dont get how it would work? could someone explain this? like, we (ludes) only have one exhuast manifold. so how would we get two turbo's with one manifold?

 

With a custom built manifold. It would be to much work
for to little gain.

 

One method you could TT a 4 banger (and IMO the easiest way) would be to split the exhaust gas between the 4 cylinders. 2 cylinders can have their own manifold and run one turbine, and the other 2 cylinders will have their own manifold and run another turbine (parallel aka. non-sequential TT). I believe the most limiting factor would have to be space.

EDIT: and I say this is te easiest way, because when you compare that with a sequential TT setup it is easier to do.


[Modified by BlueShadow, 7:23 AM 1/19/2003]

 

Ok I haven't read through all of this; But isn't impossible to put two turbos on a 4 banger. My brother has a MR2 Twin Induction Turbo. I hope that's what ya'll are talking about otherwise ya'll are idiots.

 

Are you saying it IS or it ISN'T possible to put twins on a 4 cylinder?

And by 'twin induction' are you talking about a turbo and supercharger? or is it actually a twin turbo setup (2 turbos)?

EDIT: Watch what you type as well, you didn't bother to read through all the posts, and you have the nuts to call us a bunch of idiots?


[Modified by BlueShadow, 8:04 AM 1/19/2003]

 

good luck fitting the damn thing and all it's piping

 

i saw a twin charged mr2 once. i think it was in SCC's ultimate street car challenge. said he had wiring demons, but it pulled like a ************. low end of supercharger + turbo's high end=wh00T!

 

Eh, I don't like the idea at all. Here's why:

1.) The propper combonation of cylinders is 1-4 and 2-3. Making these run together, then fit 2 turbos? Maybe you could do a roof-mount radiator like in the Baja Beetles? Then getting the 2 downpipes into 1 and then under the oil pan. Fun. Then 2 wastegates, 2 dump tubes. Thennnn, you'd need a dual-inlet FMIC like the big supercars use. piping the IC piping to these is just less room that you didn't have in the first place.

2.) The exhaust pulse of the optimum cylinder combo isn't frequent enough and doesn't give off enough heat to spool even a small turbo effiently.

Just get a single turbo, swollow your originality, and move on.

 

okay, now how does a sequential turbo work? like, is the manifold separated?

 

anyone?

 

i'll explain it later.... i'm tired right now

 

......explanation???

 

ok, from what i gather, the only way you could sequential turbo on a Honda engine. have a from the engine with one outlet, it goes into the smaller turbo that handle the low end, and then instead of just going down a DP to the exhaust, it then dumps into the turbine of a larger turbo to spool it as well....

OR, well this is funky, and it just came to me, what about a manifold with an outlet to the turbine, and one for the wastegate, the wastegate dumps into the DP form the first tubo, feeding into the second helping it spool, with a 2nd wastegate just before the 2nd turbo to control the boost level on it. this is all a lot of specualtion, and having it work on a 4cyl Honda would be very difficult

 

Apexi DID make a twin turbo H22A with an integra body
http://formen.ign.com/news/35385.html

 

so did bob norwood on a b18c, he puts out 4000whp. and guess what else? none of these are street legal so dont waste your time.


[Modified by GudeH23a, 10:20 PM 1/23/2003]