just curious to know what you guys think would be the best choice for my friend. he is stuck on what to do. i advised him to go with a Hondata setup... but he is trying to avoid spending too much money on his car... and he wants to keep things simple. this is where the poll comes in to place...

he has a Revhard equipped LS. he currently is running the Vortech FMU 12:1, bosche inline and stock injectors.

he only plans on boosting 7psi for now... until he builds his motor. what do you recommend he get in the meantime?

vote for the best choice.

 

For some reason I can't vote in polls so I will say "smoke wizeed 3v3ry d@y!"

Hondata...

 

Sorry but a hondata and injectors alone won't make his car run. He'll need tuning time which is usually about 3-4 hours on a dyno with someone who has experience tuning a hondata. All in all, it should probably cost about 1500-2000 to get it running right but the good news is that he can turn up the boost to about 14 psi and be safe with a conservative tune. If he is running a t3/t4 he'd better run more than the 7psi he wants to. That turbo will won't even start getting happy with only 7psi of boost.

 

[QUOTE]All in all, it should probably cost about 1500-2000 to get it running rightQUOTE]

it cost me 1000 dollars to do the hondata 2b on my car w/ tuning. 2b was 500 on gb, injectors were 250, install was free, and dyno time was 225 oh and 50 for 3bar map. best 1000 ive ever spent. I would say if he budgets 1200$ for the hondata done and done he should be ok. then he can sell the FMU/inline/missing link and get some money back.

tell him to run 10psi on hondata.

 

 

Where'd you get the 3bar for $50?

 

dont forget if hes ODBII the cost of ecu and harness. I guess I'm still missing somethign, but I dont see how 1500 or so is worth it for fuel.

 

It takes two things to make power. People spend 3k to get more air into their motor so what's so wrong with spending 1500 to get the fuel and some terrific extras like timing contol, rev limiters removed and other cool stuff? Why skimp on the other part of putting all that compressed air to use?

I paid 600 bucks for a freakin intercooler. If I didn't spend any money getting fuel to my motor I might as well buy some 18" chrome wheels and get my girlfriend some fake ****.

 

got the map sensor for 50$ from damon. its a GM map sensor.

got the injectors from some guy on H-T i dont remember who.

1500$ for fuel and tuning is the best investment u can make, thats alot cheaper then pulling the motor and rebuilding it if u blow it.

 

obviously, he is goin to tune it.

14psi on a stock block runnin a t3/t4? uhmmm... he might have to implant some big ***** to want to run that high of boost on a stock motor.

 

no wonder why you cant vote in polls. haha

one good reason why i kept it closed...

or ill have people voting "smoke wizeed 3v3ry d@y!" haha

 

Dude, tell him to get some ***** that are regular sized because that's all it takes to run 14psi on a stock block. Sheeet.

Didn't you read that post about that hatch in SCC that was running 20psi on a stock block?

I ran 10psi on a ZC for two years and the worst that ever happened is that the head gasket started to leak a little. I think 4 more lbs on a B18 is no big deal.

 

just cause st00pid pushed 20psi doesnt mean anyone can. if u look closely at his set up, he is running a T04b turbo. its pushing alot less air then a T04e. hence the reason it made 293whp @ 20psi. a to4e would be over 350 @ 20psi. plus at that high of boost ur car is completly in the hands of the tuner, jason knows what hes doing. there are two hondata dealers in dallas that I wouldnt trust tuning my car above 5psi. and they are authorized hondata dealers what kinda crap is that.

i am just venting, i have seen people go from saying a year or two ago that stock motors will blow above 7psi to people now saying stock motors can handle 20psi. they can handle alot but they cant handle a monkey with a lap top!

 

s-afc and 310cc injectors.

 

I hope one of those two isn't Alamo because I plan on taking my car there for tuning.

 

they charge by the hour and they took almost 10 hours to tune a turbo type R to 8psi. yes, the guy paid 150$ per hour. i think he paid 1300$ for tuning alone. kinda sad considering it took vaportrail 2 hours to tune my car and i made just as much power as the type R. thats why im glad tony is tuning hondata's now. someone locally w/ years of experience tuning and there own dyno.

 

damn.. are you serious? thats absurd.


[Modified by dlplayboy, 11:03 PM 12/23/2002]

 

well, the guy they're tuning is kinda on a different breed too...

 

what breed is he? bonefied rice boy?

 

hahahah, yeah.....

 

This is so true, and i am a victim, and will never go back. Since when is Tony tuning Hondata? i know that he got a dyno in shop now, but i never knew he tunes hondata. i was planning on buying AEM when i moved back to DFW, since he tuned that, but i am keep my Hondata if he tunes that too.

 

the software is on its way i believe. should be tuning them in no time.

 

Nice