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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 07:49 AM
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I am searching for a new head online. i have e-mailed a few places. is there anything i should watch out for when i am buying a used head? what questions should i ask the seller? i am buying from parts yards.

i would also like to know which years heads can fit a 94 LX Accord? can the 96-97 heads fit as well? i am searching for a direct match, since i do not want to have to pay my mechanic more money.

i really need help fast.
thanks in advance.

i hope i didn't make any more newbie mistakes in this post and yes, i read the instructions.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 08:08 AM
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how did you warp your head?
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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His car overheated.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=322913
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 08:33 AM
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did you try changing your head gasket?
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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Default Re: my engine head is warped (profroopchan)

94-95-96-97 LX head will work.

Buying a head online is kind of a risk. ask if you can return it if it is messed up.

check and see if it is warped, they can probably tell you how much,if any, the head is warped. when you get it recheck it with a straight edge and a feeler gauge, it shouldnt be more than .002".
also inspect the head for cracks.
check valve seats in each combustion chamber for cracks, pits, and burned spots.
if you are getting the valve train also, check the face of the valves for any irregularities (cracks,pits,burned spots,etc.)
you should prbably have it blue'd too, to reveal any hairline fractures.


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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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well, i am not totally sure as yet if my head is warped. i was just assuming it was warped, because i unknowingly drove it while the temp was in the red. i stopped frequently to try to cool it, but it stayed in the red. now, it won't start none at all. is it possible that my head can be repaired? i didn't want to run the risk of spending money on my head, and it is bad. i am open to all opinions
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:13 PM
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I got a 97 EX head sitting in my garage. I bought it as a spare head. But I don't need it any more. *Note* this is only the head, no intake manifold or exhaust manifold. I got the head check at the machine shop. Nothing wrong with it. Let me know.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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I got a 97 EX head sitting in my garage.
thats a vtec head, he'd need to swap out his rocker arm assembly and cam to make that work (with other modifications, im sure), or do a frankenstein.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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The head would bolt on his bottom end. My head is complete with the cam, valves, springs, retainers, cam gear, rocket arm assembly, vtec solenoid. It has everything except the valve cover. All he needs is to bolt this head on with his intake manifold and the other parts. And his need to go get a msd window switch and hook it up to his vtec solenoid and................ boom..... a little bit faster car.



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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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are the coolant passages the same?
wont he still need to tap into an oil line and run it to his head?
whats he going to do about the fuel and ignition maps? its not really gonna help if more fuel isnt thrown in.
what about valve to piston clearance?
i would really love to know.i will do it,... if it can be done that easy.
its not quite as simple as "glue this piece to this piece".


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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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I had a 97 SE and I put an EX motor it. The bottom end is the same. The only differents is the valve train, according to the helms manual. Fuel and ignition well i don't have answer for that......
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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w3rd, i would have looked in the helms too, but mine's at the shop with my car.
that would only be about an hour worth of work...but still not worth the money, IMHO.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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what's the final consensus? can i simply bolt on a vtec head or not?
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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what's the final consensus? can i simply bolt on a vtec head or not?
you would have to get a computer from an EX. and run an oil line.
it wouldnt be hard, but it wouldnt be cheap.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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Personally wouldn't it be better to just swap in a f22b1, they can be had fairly cheap. I have full F22b1 swap with 99k on it for sale for $450 or b/o, shameless plug. You generally will end up spending more to buy a head, ecu, and miscellaneous parts plus labor when a whole engine can be had for a similar or lesser cost and be much easier to install.

I have also heard that when you overheat an aluminum block motor like a Honda you can fix it, but it will never be the same again. Basically buy a new motor.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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Personally wouldn't it be better to just swap in a f22b1, they can be had fairly cheap.
depends on where your at. If it was me, id just swap in a H23, and call it a day.
I know around here, ive found numerous h23a's at salvage yards,computer and all, for $300-$400. cheap
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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<------- has his lx head still laying around email me if your interested
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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I have a F22B2 head layin around.. looks like other people do too tho.
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