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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 06:33 AM
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Icon5 Mini-Me Swap Help.

Okay, I've read a ton of information for years about this now, however I need guidance on why my dizzy is maxing out, while the center timing mark is still towards the back of the engine.
It is a fully built y7 bottom end, with a fully built y8 head. Could the head be shaved prior to me buying it 2nd hand? It has a y8 Brian Crower Stage 2 Forced Induction Camshaft, with a y8 Aem Tru-Time Cam Gear(checked part no. It is the y8 one!) I have been told by somebody with an almost exact same setup(Cam and all...) that his idle sounded much different. All of the marks line up for mechanical timing. I know the y7/y8 have 12* base ignition timing, which I have set in my street tune(Hondata s300).

Would anyone be interested in handing over some guidance, or anywhere to start from?? PM's are welcome I would appreciate it to the fullest, as I hope to pass my knowledge off to others so they don't have to struggle like I have..

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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 06:40 AM
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When you start hybriding stuff and may be dealing with decked heads and blocks, youre just going to have to bite the bullet and degree the cam. You will know for sure that youre where youre supposed to be.
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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 06:55 AM
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When you start hybriding stuff and may be dealing with decked heads and blocks, youre just going to have to bite the bullet and degree the cam. You will know for sure that youre where youre supposed to be.
So, is it possible for the mechanical "tdc" timing marks to line up, or for the ignition timing marks to line up, but it still be technically off?
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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 07:01 AM
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Thats just for the bottom end. I would assume that would be right, unless the crank pulley slipped on the rubber (which I have heard of believe it or not), but if the cam timing is wrong, its not going to perform well and its going to potentially make it hard to get the ignition timing right (like having to crank it all the way one way or the other to get it timed).
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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt
Thats just for the bottom end. I would assume that would be right, unless the crank pulley slipped on the rubber (which I have heard of believe it or not), but if the cam timing is wrong, its not going to perform well and its going to potentially make it hard to get the ignition timing right (like having to crank it all the way one way or the other to get it timed).
I see, I see. Is there a "poor man's degree kit, or how do I know when its degreed? I know the basics of the proper technique, however what signs might point me in the right direction, adjusting the cam gear some? Inb4 I just assume, and take the leap of buying the dial and harmonic magnet?
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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 07:15 AM
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If youre lucky you may be able to find a local Honda guru who can do it for a small fee, if not, buying the stuff is a good investment imo.
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Old Aug 20, 2021 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Full_Tilt
If youre lucky you may be able to find a local Honda guru who can do it for a small fee, if not, buying the stuff is a good investment imo.
Where i'm from.. I am the local Honda guru lolol. Fabricated, built, tuned every bolt, pipe, and cell of this car. Learnt (and occasionally hurt) almost everything as I went.

Would you use the same dial gauge for degreeing a dohc? If so I might be able to borrow a buddies and getter done today!
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