Hey guys, I've got a 2004 Civic VP Coupe Manual. I've done the usual intake and catback exhaust. I am more inclined to go than show, so i'm still stock wheels and ride height. I keep my car as clean as I can. Call it a sleeper look.
So with the $400-$500 i'll have leftover from paying bills out of stimulus check, i'd like to buy something improve my 0-60 mph. I'm not sure if I should go with a dry nitrous 50 wet shot, or get an AEM F/IC 6 and a wideband and start building a T04E turbo kit. From what I've researched, the FIC is better than than the eManage Blue or AFC NEO. I like that it has a built in 4 bar MAP and can clamp what the stock ecu sees from the stock MAF while also skewing stock O2 voltage. I also need something that can cut the fuel map down by half so I can install 410cc. injectors I believe it would be the best option for my end-goal of 190-200 hp without throwing codes all over.
The AEM FIC 6 is like 10 years old now tho, is there a newer equivalent on the market that would do everything I need? Has anybody used one and can attest to it?
Will I open up a horribly expensive can of worms with all that? You guys think I should just get a 50 wet shot and be happy with it?

 

Save the money

 

But I want to go fast. After taking the night to think about it, I feel like using nitrous is dooming my D17 to early death. ANY malfunction in the rpm switch or full throttle switch and, boom, melted pistons. I feel like turbo has a softer ramp into the additional horsepower.

Anyway, as this is in the EMS section, has anyone had any experiences tuning a 7th gen Civic with something other than Hondata Kpro D17? I don't have high power goals and the Kpro would cost as much as the entire turbo kit. Thats why I was looking at the AEM F/IC 6, its like $410 US.

 

 

Buy some sticky tires. Then you will go faster in every direction.

 

So what you're saying is, I should get a K-Pro 4 D17??

 

You're going to have to pay the money back come tax time next year so keep it in a safe place.

 

Do I NEED a wideband O2 to run a wet nitrous kit? Is it too sketch to check the plugs after a few pulls?

 

Or buy things that you actually need. This is not the time to flail on useless car parts for a car that's worth $1800.

 

Stop asking stupid questions dude, the car is a slow piece of **** and nothing you can afford to do will make it fast.

 

Lol

Spending a stimulus check on some nitrous only to blow the motor and need more stimulus checks to put in a new single cam.

Take that check and buy yourself an education son!

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Never, huh? Nothing I can do? So, h-beam rods, forged pistons, arp headstuds and a 20 lbs of boost doesn't qualify as fast? I might put that quote on a bumper sticker just so you can read it from the light of my tail lamps.

 

Not for $400 dumb ***.

 

Haha, yea, sorry, got a little salty there for a sec. Callin' my baby a POS got me a little triggered. I've decided to piece together a turbo kit over the next 4 months with a total budget of around $1300 including the AEM F/IC6. Power goals around 200 hp at 8-9 psi. Honestly I would love to get a K-pro, but I just can't swing the $1100 all in one go. I just Prime'd myself a cast manifold, turbo, 38mm wg, and oil feed/drain kit. Should be here by the end of the month. Next month will be AEM month with the UEGO and F/IC6. June will be intercooler, injectors and downpipe. July should be full installation, exhaust work and highway tuning.

 

Sounds like a disaster plan. Good luck.

Based on your plan, it is likely the only tail lights being seen will be those of a tow truck by you.

200 wheel HP won't be a "Street Dominator" anyway... even if everything works as good as you hope. There are just WAY too many Honda's lurking around with more power than this... even NA ones.

 

Ok sorry my bad, honestly if I were you and you really liked your car that much, I wouldn't spend a dime on the D and start researching a K swap. But too late I guess.

 

Yeah, I have been thinking about the swap-vs-turbo dilema and it really came down to budget for me. I'd love to get a K20, but engine mounts, axles and ecu would put the cost well over $3000 and i'd still only have 200 hp. I don't have an engine hoist or somewhere to park my car and swap it for a couple weeks. I figure if I can assemble the turbo kit on my bench as much as possible, piece-by-piece, when I do the actual install it'll only take me a couple days. Perhaps in the fall, i'll pick up a spare D17 longblock and build it up a bit so i'll be ready when I eventually want to turn the boost up past 10 psi.

 

if it takes you a couple of weeks to do a motor swap, YOU SHOULD JUST STOP before you start. Wrenching on cars isn't for everybody, even though everyone and their momma thinks it's easy. Just look at all the "my car won't start" threads.

But for reals though. No one is buying into your so called plans of gapping people on the road with your D17 motor. I mean...if you blew your stimulus check on some Backpage hooker and booze, I would actually be proud of you. LOL

 

At the very least get you a low miles b18b and then turbo it. Afterwards convert to a vtec head and throw in some arp rod bolts.

And Hondata s300v3 and wideband

 

Umm it’s an ‘04

 

Could be done.... if I never wanted to drive on public roads again. Unfortunately the engine HAS to be newer than the chassis.

 

I still might K swap it. A lot of the stuff I ordered just mounts to the chassis, like fuel pump, E85 fuel line, adjustible FPR, pcv catch can, low profile 12" fans, intercooler, Oil pressure gauge, boost gauge, wideband gauge, high flow cat.

 

Yea I skimmed through it hah.

Go k series!!! Na setups aren’t beast.

 

I thought this was a car you owned for a long time. Now knowing you just bought it recently I think it's incredibly stupid for you to do anything other than maintenance. Do what you want.

 

I don't even know what I just read hahahaha wft