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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 12:20 AM
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I’m building a b18b1 motor for daily boost enough so I have room to raise the power down the line, but also so I don’t have to worry about the block. I’m set on a css but machinist swears by Darton. I know they are strong, but what kind of boost can the non-MID sleeves take, and do they have a good life span? I’m gonna be driving this car all over when it’s done, and I don’t wanna worry about the sleeves or block while going long distance or in the event of boost spike or something else unforeseen.

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Old Sep 25, 2019 | 02:49 PM
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The CSS can hold up to 600 Hp I think even more check with CSS. There's people who have put out over 800 Hp .


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Old Sep 26, 2019 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
The CSS can hold up to 600 Hp I think even more check with CSS. There's people who have put out over 800 Hp .


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Oh trust me, I’m ready for a css but my machinist is 1) taking forever to disassemble and inspect my block 2) insisting that if I want to make boost then to go with darton sleeves. I have nothing against darton and have considered using darton sleeves with the css. I’m just wandering, if I needed to bite the bullet, how do darton sleeves hold up over time? Performance parts are good for high power, but how long is the question.
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteggy
Oh trust me, I’m ready for a css but my machinist is 1) taking forever to disassemble and inspect my block 2) insisting that if I want to make boost then to go with darton sleeves. I have nothing against darton and have considered using darton sleeves with the css. I’m just wandering, if I needed to bite the bullet, how do darton sleeves hold up over time? Performance parts are good for high power, but how long is the question.
There is way too many variables to estimate how long they hold, there's driving habits there is how high the engine revs while driving boost psi ect.. You could crack a sleeve or drop a sleeve on the first week with darton sleeves it comes down to allot of things especially the labor installation. Unless your going to run a huge amount of boost or shoot for a high HP goal over the recommended CSS then go with a sleeved setup. People will always recommend more expensive parts when they either get a discount from the vendor or a profit of there own.
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
There is way too many variables to estimate how long they hold, there's driving habits there is how high the engine revs while driving boost psi ect.. You could crack a sleeve or drop a sleeve on the first week with darton sleeves it comes down to allot of things especially the labor installation. Unless your going to run a huge amount of boost or shoot for a high HP goal over the recommended CSS then go with a sleeved setup. People will always recommend more expensive parts when they either get a discount from the vendor or a profit of there own.
I know what you mean. To be more specific, this is going to be my daily so boost levels are gonna stay moderate. No more than 15 psi which I know is gonna be waaaaayy below what darton or a css can handle. So I’m just asking on the assumption that everything is installed correctly, how well they will regularly handle this boost and **maaayybee**more boost in the future. More so requesting the advice of people who have used them for long periods of time, not just set values. For example, a guy on Honda-tech told me he uses benson sleeves and they have been holding up strong since 2014
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