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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 02:24 PM
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hi guys having issue with my 2000 civic si 5mt b16a2. I've had p0505 idle air control code for the longest time and idles high and after 10 mins of driving idle starts bouncing at around 1500 and car starts bucking forward when I easing into throttle. Then I have to restart the car to reset it but happens again after few minutes of driving.

things I've tried:
-resetting the code and resetting battery
-checked vacuum lines and even replaced some
-cleaned tb and iacv and intake manifold
-replaced tb gasket and intake manifold gasket
-replaced pcv valve and tps sensor
-coolant flush
-checked spark plugs still good
-replaced battery
-deleted the coolant lines to tb and iacv
-tried adjusting idle screw but didn't help so I turned it back to where it was before

swapping iacv made the idle worse by making it surge from 1000-2000rpm

There is no fast idle valve on this car since it's a 2000
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 02:42 PM
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Unplug IACV when it is idling fast and confirm that it drops to less than normal. That means the ECU is commanding the IACV open. On the other hand, if the idle doesn't drop with the IACV unplugged, too much air is getting into the engine some other way such as a vacuum leak or the throttle plate not closing all the way.

Test the ECT sensor with an ohmmeter. A wrong ECT reading can make the ECU think the engine is cold when it is not, and increase the idle thinking it is on a cold start.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 03:06 PM
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So when I disconnect iacv connector idle drops to 700ish rpm does that mean iacv is bad
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 06:54 PM
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Describe how you cleaned the IACV.

When you cover the IACV hole inside the TB with your finger when the idle is surging, does the idle lower and stabilize?
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mk378
Test the ECT sensor with an ohmmeter. A wrong ECT reading can make the ECU think the engine is cold when it is not, and increase the idle thinking it is on a cold start.
A malfunctioning TPS can also cause an idle problem.
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 07:13 PM
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A malfunctioning TPS can also cause an idle problem.
i replaced the tps already and for cleaning the iacv I took it off n sprayed the hell out of it with deep creep
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kdawg8526
i replaced the tps already and for cleaning the iacv I took it off n sprayed the hell out of it with deep creep
Did you do the IACV test with your finger that I mentioned?

A new TPS must be calibrated. Did you do that?

The goal of cleaning the IACV is to ensure that the spring loaded window opens and closes smoothly. Did you manually check that?

Did you also properly bleed the cooling system?
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 08:56 AM
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So I blocked the iacv hole which had a lot of suction and the idle dropped to about 6-700

i did calibrate the tps

I can check if the spring inside moves

the coolant I left the rad cap off for about 10-15 mins and squeezed the top hose didn't see much bubbles escape
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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 07:27 PM
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Read the coolant bleed procedure in the service manual. You did not do it correctly.

Ohm test the ECT sensor.

And re-clean the IACV and then check whether the IACV window opens and closes smoothly.
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 12:48 PM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

So I checked the iacv plugged a 12v source and it works

the ect sensor shows 2.6k ohms resistance

and just did coolant bleed again noticed that the radiator fan took 20 mins to turn on first time and 10 minutes more to turn on again after that

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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kdawg8526
the ect sensor shows 2.6k ohms resistance
At what engine temperature? It matters. See service manual.
If the engine was fully warmed up, you found the problem.




and just did coolant bleed again noticed that the radiator fan took 20 mins to turn on first time and 10 minutes more to turn on again after that
This^ is normal. Civic engines run cool normally.
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by muellersfan
At what engine temperature? It matters. See service manual.
If the engine was fully warmed up, you found the problem.




This^ is normal. Civic engines run cool normally.
Car was cold when I checked so now I double checked when cars warm it's 220ohm
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kdawg8526
Car was cold when I checked so now I double checked when cars warm it's 220ohm
^This is fine

Next do the idle adjust procedure below exactly as described. You will need an external tachometer. Post details of your findings.

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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 11:00 AM
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Ok so i tried this I unplugged iac and the purge solenoid and it was idling still around 900 I turned the screw all the way in and it wouldn't go down to 450 like stated in the procedure. With the screw all the way in the car idled at 760rpm. After plugging everything back idle is around 1100.
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

There's intake air or vacuum leak.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:41 AM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

Can't find any vacuum leak even tried spraying all the hoses with soap water could it be a leak inside throttle body from plate not closing completely because I did clean the throttle body recently
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Kdawg8526
even tried spraying all the hoses with soap water
FYI: ^Tells you nothing
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

If there was a leak the idle would drop no? Also tried removing each vacuum line n plugging the port on intake manifold to see if idle goes normal
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 06:28 PM
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The throttle plate must close completely when no one is pressing the gas. The little stop screw is adjusted at the factory so it just touches the sides of the throttle body and it should be left there. If someone has been tweaking it, adjust it back that way and leave it (also recalibrate your TPS after adjusting). Of course the throttle cable can't be too tight, it should go slack when the gas is not pressed.

You should be able to stall the engine out by blocking all of the idle air holes in the side of the throttle body at once. If not, extra air is coming in somewhere.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 07:19 PM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

I adjusted the idle to the lowest point to see if that would help but it didn't. the tps was recalibrated when I replaced it. I loosened the throttle cable already.

when I cover the idle air control hole in the throttle body the idle drops a bit but doesn't stall the car.

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The throttle plate must close completely when no one is pressing the gas. The little stop screw is adjusted at the factory so it just touches the sides of the throttle body and it should be left there. If someone has been tweaking it, adjust it back that way and leave it (also recalibrate your TPS after adjusting). Of course the throttle cable can't be too tight, it should go slack when the gas is not pressed.

You should be able to stall the engine out by blocking all of the idle air holes in the side of the throttle body at once. If not, extra air is coming in somewhere.
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 11:02 AM
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Check around the intake manifold for any open nipples and check your brake boosters vacuum hose, see if its secure with a spring clamp on both ends.
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Old Jan 25, 2019 | 11:08 AM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

Originally Posted by tony_2018
Check around the intake manifold for any open nipples and check your brake boosters vacuum hose, see if its secure with a spring clamp on both ends.
yup everything's hooked up I even took off my whole intake manifold and changed gasket and no luck
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 12:00 PM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

Just wanted to update thread it ended up being the IACV itself
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Old Mar 22, 2019 | 02:10 PM
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Default Re: P0505 iacv code tried everything

Thank you for updating the end results.

That was a lot of work you went through but it's good for future users/searchers.

A lot of people just throw parts at it. You diagnosed everything and came down to bad IACV by rule of exclusion.
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