Hi guys,
Hope my english is not too crappy for you (from Israel).
Well, I'm in the middle of swapping my d16a7 to d16y8 and I've encountered a problem. The left axle - 2 parts, the longer one, has a braket and is supposed to bolt on to the engine block so the axle will stay in to the tranny. The problem is that the d16y8 that came of 2001 civic from usa, doesn't have the screw bosses for the axle's braket.
Did anyone experiensed such a thing or what am I missing? The civic is usdm

Thanks a lot for your help!
Michael


(images attached)

Axle

D16y8

The original bosses d16a7

 

will to start your english is perfect ^_^

the 2001 civic never came with a d16y8
those were the d17 motors

 

Thanks!
Actually there were d16w from 2001-2005 or so if I'm correct. I thought that maybe there was a rare 2001 model with d16y8, the pictures i got from the US seller of the engine were of 2001 shape with y8.
The engine is definetly y8. The manifold is a bit different from what we have here.
Anyway, the issue still needs a solution.
Did anyone fabricated some kind of a braket or made changes to the trannyand installed the 92-00 left axle?

Thanks in advance!

 

post a picture of your y8 just so we can make sure

 

 

 

ok yep thats a y8
so that half shaft isnt going to work
some y8s came with the 3 hole and some didnt
yours didnt

but if you can weld you can make something like this

















i dont have my y8 anymore
so i cant remove the bracket and make another one to sell to you
but with those pictures i think you should have the idea on how to make one your self
or at least now know how to fix your problem

let me know if you have anymore questions

 

oh for the tree nuts that get welded on make sure you use the grade 8
all other grades the threads will warp when you weld them on

 

WOW! GREAT! THANKS!
Got some more questions

1- The question is how do make sure that the axle is at the right position?
From what I understood, if it's slightly misplaced the rubber seals will leak and the end of the axle might grind?

2- Is opening the tranny and converting to 96-00 axles an option? will they fit length wise?
Thought to open the tranny and change the parts that hold the axles to 96-00 ones, but from the little info i found, the newer axles might be shorter?

3- What axles are used when converting an EF to D series hydro transmission?

Thanks a lot!

 

how many splines on the end of the intermediate shaft that goes into the transmission?
if 25, then a USDM 88-91 Civic/Crx driver's side axle should go right in and be the right length
if 27, then you would need to use the same 88-91 Civic/crx axle and swap the CV joint on the inside end to one from 90-93 Integra

 

Hi,
thanks for the reply
the problem isn't with splines or the cv, it's with the original axle mount - 3 screws bosses are missing on the engine block, and the question is how to solve it?
1-diy bracket as shown on photos in one of the previous replies. If yes how do I make sure that the bracket location is precise? So the seals won't leak and the axles won't grind?
2-96-00 axles with cable transmission adjustment, if yes will they fit? Maybe 92-95 axles are a better fit?
The question about the hydro conversion was to get more info for question number 2, of being able to use drivers long axle of newer models? Same with the passenger side axle

thanks a lot,
waiting for suggestions and comments

 

when i did this back in the day i dont remember what axles i used

and for the center shaft to fit right was pretty easy
all i did was just get it as straight as i could before welding the bracket in place just useing my eyes
i didnt whip out a measuring tape or anything but i probebly should have
you should haha

mine never leaked and i had that y8 for about 3 years
when the center shaft goes into the trans you can see the seal wrap around the axle
just make sure its wrapped evenly and done ^_^

 

Thanks a lot!

Would like to hear some opinions about the 92-95 or 96-00 axles? Anyone tried on cable tranny?

 

I think you're misunderstanding jilcrx's response. If your transmission takes a 25 spline axle, you can use a long one-piece driver's side axle from a 88-91 USDM Civic. If your transmission takes a 27 spline axle, you will need to use a 88-91 USDM Civic axle and outer CV joint with a 90-93 Integra inner CV joint. Either way, you get rid of using a half-shaft and short axle for the driver's side and use a long axle instead.

 

Thanks for the clarification! You're right I misunderstood! I didn't know there were long driver's side axles for 88-91 civic/crx - it didn't sound right to me
So if my transmission takes 25 splines the long axle will hold in? I thought that those 3 screws are supposed to hold the axle in the tranny - it won't pop out?
Will count the splines later today (just to make sure - the splines are the teeth on the inner and outer cv's?

 

Yes, if your transmission takes 25 spline axles, it should go right in. The is a snap ring on the inner CV that holds it into the transmission.

 

The original, drivers side one, comes without the snap ring. I'll try to mount the right axle instead of the left just to check if it'll hold inside

 

Hi Guys,

Well, updating the info about the axles - my original axles came with 26 on outer cvs splines and 27 splines (counted 3 times to be sure) on inner side (that go into the transmission) - it's a L3-2xxxxx gold sticker tranny

- About the snapping rings - on the original axles there were no snapping rings - tried to fit the right axle into the left housing to check if it can hold in there without popping out - it can't - maybe it shouldn't?
getting a bit frustrated - want to find a solution without modifying a bracket for the original ones

Can I get somewhere the 27 splines female part that goes into the transmission that can hold a snapping ring' open the tranny and change it?

HELP NEEDED

Thanks a lot!