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Old Feb 9, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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Hello. Looking for info but no one has pointed me in the right direction. Please help. I have 95 hatchback and I'm looking to drop an lsvtec. I want to do Coil on Plug but I also want to completely eliminate the distributor. How can I pick up the crank position for the firing order? Can I add an crank position sensor using hondata or would I need to go aem? Any wiring schematics around I can look at? Please help. Thanks.
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 03:55 AM
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Default Re: Coil on plug with no dizzy

AFAIK AEM has the only kit that allows bypassing and removing the distributor.
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 09:08 PM
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Yes, but a sensor still has to be bolted there in place of the distributor. So, you have a device that is smaller than the OE distributor, but not a cam seal for the clean look that the OP might be looking for. T1 makes an optical sensor that works off the cam gear end of the engine... look into that option.
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 09:18 AM
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Yes, but a sensor still has to be bolted there in place of the distributor. So, you have a device that is smaller than the OE distributor, but not a cam seal for the clean look that the OP might be looking for. T1 makes an optical sensor that works off the cam gear end of the engine... look into that option.
Exactly. I want to plug the dizzy side w a cam seal but I don't want the T1 trigger. Is there any way to pick up the signal using an ibd2 oil pump and use the crank position sensor to eliminate the 1 trigger and use a cam seal on the dizzy side? Thanks in advance
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:46 PM
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Mmm... On coil on plug cars (ex. 2001+ civic, 02+ rsx) the crank position sensor does not trigger the spark. It is done by the TDC aka cam trigger. In a b series this sensor is built into the dizzy.
With the crank position sensor, the ECU doesn't know if the piston is in compression or exhaust stroke.
Look at what the other post says, or at a 2001+ civic cam gear and TDC sensor. Maybe you can use that cam gear, or adapt the "timing wheel" with teeth to the back of your b series cam gear. Then weld or epoxy a nut to mount the sensor on the cylinder head
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:55 PM
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See pic of cam gear with TDC sensor. The d17 does not use key. It uses a pin, but maybe a machine shop can do something
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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Those teeth is what the sensor use to trigger
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