I came across a web they say we offer remote tuning. Ist good idea ? I'm looking for 280hp on h22 stock internals I will run chipped p28 ecu a local tuner will cost 500-650 bucks I'm really thinking about remote tuning but ist good idea to do it? Anyone tried it?
Thanks

 

I've seen this done with something like the motec, but from my understanding they can do it because of the amount of data they can get from it. IMO I would not trust them and therefore wouldn't do it.

 

Many people will do it but almost everyone has dropped support for the OBD-1 platforms. Too many people have no clue what they are doing and problems with the cars. Newer cars already have knock sensors to help the tuner if they mess up on a change.

All remote tuning does is have the car owner drive a specific way and gather a datalog. The tuner makes adjustments to a calibration and sends it back for the owner to do more datalogs. This is repeated over and over until the tuner is satisfied or the owner runs out of money. If you look most of them will only make a certain amount of adjustments before they charge you more money.

Basically if you have the option to tune the car locally with a dyno you are stupid to even consider remote tuning. This should ONLY be a last resort or to make minor touch ups for correction factors or if a tuner is hours and hours away or there isn't one in your country.

 

.... I don't agree with the above response at all. Most often with supercars, or high dollar vehicles most are all remote tuned. Being the tuner is not present at the dyno. Harrop pointed me to a tuner and a dyno in Hawaii that would have handled the tune on my c6 vette had I gone with that setup. Very common in the amg and Porsche world.

Talk to phearable about your setup.

 

Your talking about high end cars with high end engine management systems with tons of data being logged (lots of extra sensors). This isn't possible with obd1 ECUs, at least not to do a great job tuning anyways. I still say to saty away from it.

Op The tuner is charging $6xx for what exactly? I have a couple tuners locally and they charge $300 up to $600-700 for locash racing. Shoot, there's eve a couple people charging $180 for s turbo street tune. Wood not trust.

 

No need to say stupid I came here to know if I'm right or wrong. Watch your words

 

Read my response again please. I clearly stated OBD-1 tuning platform as OP clearly stated H22 with a chipped P28 which is OBD-1 if you didn't know. IF what I said isn't true then why did almost every well known e-tuner drop support for Honda OBD-1? We are talking HONDAs, not supercars, Corvettes, or anything else. Hondas. That is all.

If you want to open up a conversation about GM tuning platforms then make a separate thread and we can talk all day about those (I own HP Tuners Pro and EFI Live v2 units, had a RoadRunner), but they have VE tables of sorts which is a lot different than Speed Density only.

So, I will repeat myself once more. I mean no disrespect, but you would be stupid to try and remote tune a Honda OBD-1 platform if you have a local dyno available. What most e-tuners found over time is most people swear up and down their cars were in correct running order, base timing was correct, etc. That led to many issues like blown engines or a low power tune. The newer cars that have distributor less ignitions don't suffer from these user error issues AND they have build in knock sensors. If you don't believe me, start calling around. I have done my homework already.

Sorry for hurting your feelings by being blunt, but I guess I was just trying to get my point across. I did word that wrong before - meant to say "would be" rather than "you are" (context clues show this). You won't save ANY money if you blow your engine. Do it the right way and pay for a dyno tune. Unfortunately costs are involved with modified cars, and unless you have the skills, you have to pay to play.

 

Personally i wouldn't trust the remote tuner, not that they wont do a good job or anything but what if something happens? they cant type or call you fast enough to tell you to shut the car down. now i am assuming that they have you hook up everything plug in all the censors and they just remote in via teamviewer or the like? Either way i wouldn't go with a remote tuner or a $300 tune both scare me. I live not to far from Jeff Evans Who charges a Premium price because of the end product one thing you do not want to cheap out on is your tune. you get all these good parts put them together then skimp out on the tune you get **** power and the thing blows up in a couple months, not a good idea. i would recommend saving up a few more bucks and take it to a well known tuner, there's a reason they get the reputation they have.

 

Remote tuning is more commonly done with cars that use mass airflow, not speed density (like our old Hondas).

With a mass airflow based system, as long as the MAF table is accurate the basemap is going to run the car pretty well and safely. This doesnt happen with speed density, without being there to make small adjustements all over the idle and cruise range, it would take ages just to get the car driving okay. Then there is the very real possibility the owner is going to do damage when datalogging pulls whith nobody knowlegable watching AFRs and listening for knock.

Additionally, what Honda owner has wideband input into their ECU and knows how to datalog? Anybody who knows how to set this stuff up probably knows how to tune.

Most of my customers dont even have a wideband gauge.

 

It depends how the tuning is done. If you're on a dyno and have a good 4 hours to spend on it, your engine was built correctly and you know your way around it REALLY well, and you understand that the tuner has no way to know if you're destroying your engine during a pull and can't shut it down for you... then it's better than not having a tune at all.
But considering the price and the risk, it would be monumentally smarter to just ship your car to a tuner. That's my $0.02, as a professional tuner.